Chernobyl: Sacrifice
158 upvotes
48 comments
BeanFlickinMachine
4 weeks ago
youtu.be
Chernobyl: Sacrifice
jaredh_d2012
44
4 weeks ago

I'm still enraptured by this show

bad-r0bot
5
4 weeks ago

It was an intense and chilling binge watching session. I'm glad I binged Good Omens after it because it's amazing and I had my hand covering mouth. I was looking with eyes & mouth wide open!

Yes, there are parts & characters that aren't real but even still... holy shit what a chilling show!

Numanoid101
27
4 weeks ago

All 3 of the "divers" survived and 2 of them are still alive. I wonder how the "robots" did cleaning the roof of graphite. I sure wouldn't want that job.

Duudu
21
4 weeks ago

You can check out the WHO report on it from 2006 (theres a updated one for 2016, but it didnt update much): https://www.who.int/ionizing_radiation/chernobyl/backgrounder/en/

Mortality

According to UNSCEAR (2000), 134 liquidators received radiation doses high enough to be diagnosed with acute radiation sickness (ARS). Among them, 28 persons died in 1986 due to ARS. Other liquidators have since died but their deaths could not necessarily be attributed to radiation exposure.

and

The Expert Group concluded that there may be up to 4 000 additional cancer deaths among the three highest exposed groups over their lifetime (240 000 liquidators; 116 000 evacuees and the 270 000 residents of the SCZs). Since more than 120 000 people in these three groups may eventually die of cancer, the additional cancer deaths from radiation exposure correspond to 3-4% above the normal incidence of cancers from all causes.

It's not as high as I expected after watching the show, tbh.

Rapiero
-3
4 weeks ago

It's not as high as I expected after watching the show, tbh.

The show grossly over dramatizes the effects of radiation.

CptnPants
0
4 weeks ago

The show isn't a documentary. It is the telling if a true story of how a situation that had never occurred before was handled. Along with all the terrible management and attempted coverups.

That scene with the helicopter going to close when they are pouring sand and the guy basically instantly dying and crashing? That actually happened.

They show some real life footage at the end and explain a bunch about the aftermath including mentioning the fact that the 3 divers did survive.

Rapiero
1
4 weeks ago

That scene with the helicopter going to close when they are pouring sand and the guy basically instantly dying and crashing? That actually happened.

It actually didn't... It happened way later because a helicopter snagged a crane, not because of radiation and not on the first flights...

CptnPants
1
4 weeks ago

Pretty sure they showed a real clip in the epilogue of what that scene was based on.

Edit: I went back and watched the clip and the helicopter does get too close to the crane. It happened so quick I didn't notice the first time.

Regardless the rest of my comment still stands.

Rapiero
1
4 weeks ago

Edit: I went back and watched the clip and the helicopter does get too close to the crane. It happened so quick I didn't notice the first time.

The helicopter crashed because it clipped a crane, not because it flew over the core and then clipped a crane.

MeanEYE
-7
4 weeks ago

That's because show was really inaccurate with most of its data and exaggerated for the sake of exploiting fear of nuclear energy. Thunderfoot covered some of these issues in his video. Every nuclear scientist will tell you just how the wrong this show is. All in all, good television, shit science.

CptnPants
1
4 weeks ago

That video is terrible and misses the point of the show. It is not a documentary. It is a telling of events. Whether or not what the scientists at the time thought might happen in this situation that had never occurred before and was thought to he impossible and whether or not they were correct is irrelevant. It is what actually happened at the time or at the very least a very close representation. You can look at real life videos of the events and compare and see how accurate they were.

And I see a lot of people with this magical assumption that the show had some kind of agenda to make people fear nuclear energy despite the fact that the show went into incredible detail to explain how this situation should be impossible if it weren't for a combination of terrible decisions being made, corners being cut to save costs on building, rules and regulations being ignore, as well as the fact that this type of reactor would never even be built in any country with any sort of oversight on these things.

sqd
18
4 weeks ago

This actually makes me want to rewatch the show.

gzafiris
16
4 weeks ago

Highly suggest it :)

I would say don't binge, do an ep a day; gives you time to think and process things, too.

chicametipo
11
4 weeks ago

Know what? Just take a few years in between each episode. Raise a kid, get a mortgage, settle down, experience heartbreak, find love again, struggle to find a decent accountant, yell at your son over the drugs you found in his closet, cry over your wife’s lack of libido. And then pull out your laptop, look through the archives of old HBO shows and pull up Episode 2.

gzafiris
4
4 weeks ago

Exactly.

Really let it sink it.

This guy gets it 8-)

keptani
6
4 weeks ago

And between each episode, listen to the podcast. Give it all time to percolate.

gzafiris
1
4 weeks ago

Yeah, I put them on my bluetooth the next morning, so I could listen during my commute. Very cool insights :)

pfelon
1
4 weeks ago

I was telling my co-worker the same. She rolled through 2 episodes back-to-back and it had just emotionally and mentally exhausted her.

bad-r0bot
1
4 weeks ago

I binged Chernobyl and Good Omens this past sunday. Best sunday I've had in a while!

corrosive87
3
4 weeks ago

I can’t wait to rewatch it. I’m gonna let it marinate for another month or two, then watch it all on a Sunday.

BeanFlickinMachine
2
4 weeks ago

I've watched it a second time. I think the "...because it must be done." scene is my favorite part.

plankt0n_
2
4 weeks ago

I highly recommend listening to the podcast for every episdoe as a great way to revisit the show

airsoftpotato
1
4 weeks ago

I've already done it twice. It's so hard to stop watching. The acting is incredible, the writing just pulls you in...great series.

Oprahzilla
10
4 weeks ago

The only reason I didn’t think I wasted my money when I subscribed to HBO to see the final season of GoT.

lorty
2
4 weeks ago

I subscribed for the final episode only (actually a 1 month free trial on Crave tv) ...

Ended up watching Chernobyl, and I'm now listening to Big Little Lies. Was worth it. I forgot how good a series can be.

ishtar_the_move
8
4 weeks ago

Jared Harris is my new Kevin Spacey. Hope from now on he gets a lot more opportunities on screen and get the recognition he deserves.

wreckage88
7
4 weeks ago

Seriously. The Expanse, The Terror, Mad Men and now this show he's easily my favorite actor working in TV right now.

James_H_M
2
4 weeks ago

He really jumped out to me when he did the TV show The Fringe.

airsoftpotato
1
4 weeks ago

Season 4 of the Expanse before the end of the year!! He's not listed in the IMDB for season 4 though :(

NSFWormholes
6
4 weeks ago

Maybe someone should just post the whole thing already, instead of multiple clips every day.

TheMotion
6
4 weeks ago

Beautiful tribute to a terrible event.

[deleted]
-2
4 weeks ago

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gzafiris
28
4 weeks ago

? HBO tells that they live, at the end of the show.

That is fairly recent information, too.

Wiener_Amalgam_Space
2
4 weeks ago

Makes you wonder exactly what kind of gear they gave those divers, and/or how radioactive that water really was.

effyochicken
6
4 weeks ago

They probably gave them the very best coverage they could manage (lead pieces+completely no contact with the actual water, etc..) but knew it could still be a death sentence. It's not like they went skinny dipping because they're dying anyways.

The exact radioactivity of each location/pool of water would have been largely unknown (since you'd have to go in to measure it in each spot). However, much of the water was newer water sprayed in from the fire trucks, so not exactly the water that was flowing through the core itself. Just picking up general radiation and contamination.

So a combination of decent gear, less radiation in the water, and probably a bit of speed & luck.

Hash43
11
4 weeks ago

Nowhere in the show did it show them die, in fact at the end of the show they stated that they lived and 2 of them are still alive.

nayrrrrr
2
4 weeks ago

What is the cost of lies? It's a good question. But perhaps a better question is what is the cost of truth? What do we sacrifice in acceptance of that truth?

We all lie to ourselves. It's just a question of how much. We all have beliefs that conflict with other beliefs. The important thing is what we do when confronted with undeniable truth. And how hard we fight change.

I read somewhere that some Russian people weren't happy with how the series portrayed the events and actions of those from that region. But I feel like the show displayed a very honest and human response to their situation. I thought they portrayed them as courageous in the face of overwhelming odds.

When presented with facts that dispute and put into question everything else we have accepted as truth, what is left but to deny that reality in favor of our own?

Callipygian_Superman
7
4 weeks ago

I read somewhere that some Russian people weren't happy with how the series portrayed the events and actions of those from that region.

I have heard that the Russian people liked it, but the Russian government did not. So much so that the Russian government is making their own "Chernobyl" show.

nayrrrrr
11
4 weeks ago

I would guess their budget would then tell us the cost of lies.

effyochicken
2
4 weeks ago

Can't entirely blame them - the entire show was essentially "look how shitty, useless, and stupid as fuck the Russian military and government is."

I mean, it was true... but still lol.

fuckdirectv
4
4 weeks ago

Don't want to split hairs here, but it's not portraying the Russian government. It's portraying the government and bureaucracy of the Soviet Union, which no longer exists. Granted, some of the practices and ideologies have probably survived in some form even to the present time, but if the current Russian government is butt hurt about the portrayal of Soviet systemic failures, it speaks volumes about how they currently run their country and their insecurity about how other nations will perceive them. Ironic, considering that mentality is fairly central to the slow and ineffective initial response in the immediate aftermath of the Chernobyl disaster.

effyochicken
2
4 weeks ago

Granted, some of the practices and ideologies have probably survived in some form even to the present time,

it speaks volumes about how they currently run their country

Ironic, considering that mentality is fairly central to the slow and ineffective initial response in the immediate aftermath of the Chernobyl disaster.

So it's definitely not portraying the Russian government, except it sort of is a little...?

dt_vibe
1
4 weeks ago

That loaded first episode...

BLSmith2112
0
4 weeks ago

This show spells out how fragile the human race is, and what mistakes we make can cost us. Imagine this happening today in the United States, would there be enough political will to sacrifice thousands for the greater good?

vidwrld
0
4 weeks ago

Ok

cumfarts
0
4 weeks ago

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themanifoldcuriosity
-11
4 weeks ago

Must have taken a lot of work to put music you didn't write over random clips of a film you didn't make.

BeanFlickinMachine
14
4 weeks ago

Haha it's worse than that! I just found it on YouTube and posted it. Keep your head up man.