Netflix Saves Our Kids From Up To 400 Hours of Commercials a Year
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speckz
5 days ago
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Netflix Saves Our Kids From Up To 400 Hours of Commercials a Year
intoon
3599
5 days ago

It’s amazing how quickly marketing works on kids. Anytime we watch regular TV, the kids will get sucked into whatever is being sold to them. “MOM, DID YOU SEE THIS CEREAL THAT HAS CHOCOLATE INSIDE THE CEREAL?! WE HAVE TO GET IT “

MadTouretter
1851
5 days ago

"No."

"OMG MOM. Why won't you ever get good cereal?"

"Because I don't want you to lose a foot to diabetes when you're 55."

"..."

dirtyuncleron69
925
5 days ago

kid: proceeds to melt down and ignore your logic

Insaniaksin
567
5 days ago

It would go more like

Kid: "I done wanna lost my foot! baaaaaaaaaaa"

Parent: "well then you better not eat crappy cereal!"

Kid: "but I want it! baaaaaa"

rich____mahogany
436
5 days ago

Sounds like my own logic honestly

Taxus_Calyx
186
5 days ago

Ah, a fellow whiskey drinker!

oracleofmist
25
5 days ago

Usually how that goes with the Mrs.

Me: "But hunny I want the good stuff"

Her: "$30 is more than enough for a decent bottle of bourbon"

Me: "Whaaaaaah"

Her: "..."

Me: "sniff ... What about this $60 bottle of scotch?"

Her: "It's up to you"

Me: "Scotch it is!"

edit: What actually happens because the Mrs. insisted I correct how the conversation goes

InAFakeBritishAccent
11
5 days ago

Dude more than $30 on a bottle of burbon?

You suck at being an alcoholic.

Next you're going to tell me grey goose is a value vodka.

default-username
7
5 days ago

I love my top notch bourbons, but if I'm gonna drink vodka it might as well be 50/50 grain alcohol and water.

anax44
5
5 days ago

Dude more than $30 on a bottle of burbon?

Not really a bourbon drinker, but I definitely don't mind spending more than $30 on something that's a barrel select or bottled at cask strength.

agent0731
30
5 days ago

bacon gives you colon cancer? O__O

chill-with-will
25
5 days ago

Processed or cured meat in general does. So, salami, "pepperoni", beef jerky, bacon, bologna, bacon, etc. Btw "uncured" bacon is not a real thing no matter what the package says.

Your risk for colon cancer is say, 5% in your lifetime. Eating processed meat daily would raise it to 6%.

And yes meat also destroys the environment as a commenter below stated. Hopefully we get cheap lab grown or cheap plant based meat asap. And mass nuclear power.

Kyle-2
28
5 days ago

I've had stage 3b colon cancer (chemo, the works) and I still think eating bacon is worth the extra %1

chill-with-will
13
5 days ago

You could also see 5% -> 6% as a 20% increase to your risk. But I think that is from eating bacon every day. And I think the earth is about 20 years from being an unlivable climate change hell hole so I'm gonna live it up while I can.

mortalcoil1
7
5 days ago

In D&D terms, it's the difference between rolling a 1 on a 20 sided dice and rolling a 1 on a (approximately) 17 sided dice

Kricketts_World
78
5 days ago

The sound of a kid crying/whining makes me irrationally angry. Hence why I’m never having kids.

Betty_White
82
5 days ago

It's absolutely rational. Give yourself some credit. Crying kids suck.

RapidlySlow
23
5 days ago

The whiny cry is the thing that makes you think of doing irrational things to your child. I always have to wait a minute or two to collect myself it makes me that mad

Fauxtrok
24
5 days ago

For me it's that pig squeal they do. It's a half whine, half cry with a high pitch note that sounds like nails on chalkboards.

Where tf is the mute button??

chill-with-will
21
5 days ago

My cousin married a girl he met in a mental ward. Knocked her up twice. Their 4 year old sleeps with them and will wake up 3 or 4 times a night. Every time she does, she will just scream at the top of her lungs for no fucking reason. I didn't believe it until I slept in the next room over for a couple nights.

crinnaursa
17
5 days ago

That's night terrors they generally grow out of it. One thing you can do is keep a wet towel next to the bedside and place it on their neck bring some back to responsiveness faster you can also try disturbing their sleep more often during the night. If you know about the time that a night terror will occur wake them up just before make sure that they are alert and then put them back to bed. it should help break the cycle. just so you know a standard sleep cycle is about 90 minutes but those with night terrors can get have odd cycles.

VampireQueenDespair
4
5 days ago

they generally grow out of it

The kid has the genes of two people who met in a mental ward.

dregan
19
5 days ago

Fuck, I could watch kids fall off bikes all day, I don’t give a shit about your kids.

MrFrostyBudds
18
5 days ago

That's twisted af

LE_TROLLA
16
5 days ago

Agreed but we're having a circlejerk here

GayWolfGoneOwO
3
5 days ago

That's circled af

USCplaya
20
5 days ago

The sound of a kid crying/whining makes me irrationally angry

Oh me too, then I had twins.... It still makes me irrationally annoyed but I sure do hop right to it when they start crying to end it as soon as possible.

ClutterKitty
7
5 days ago

Have twins. Crying and whining no longer bother me. I’m numb. I don’t even respond any more unless it’s the “I’m genuinely hurt and this might need a hospital trip” cry. I’m mostly dead inside now. People tell me not to worry, they’ll outgrow it in 10-12 years. Oh good.

USCplaya
4
5 days ago

Lol, oh man, the image this painted in my mind was the funniest kind of depressing

lucindafer
4
5 days ago

Its important to point out that it’s not “different when it’s your own” for everyone.

sloaninator
5
5 days ago

It's made to make you want to stop it the problem is the crying isn't always rational. Kids will cry to cry.

Enigma_King99
4
5 days ago

And that teaches them that crying gets their way and they will continue to do it long after they shouldn't. Good job buddy

twystoffer
57
5 days ago

My daughter is backwards.

I want rest for a moment, so I try to get her to play on her device, but she wants to go outside.

I try to get her to watch TV, she wants to play a board game.

I want 30 minutes to cook dinner, she wants to run laps.

...

She's pretty awesome, but keeping up with her is exhausting.

NeutralRebel
86
5 days ago

Is your daughter a border collie?

OftenSarcastic
55
5 days ago

if I lose that other foot too, I get a wheel chair!!!!

Cereal box prizes sure have changed.

[deleted]
17
5 days ago

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Awake00
43
5 days ago

Have you ever tried simply turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

Taste_the_Grandma
11
5 days ago

Don't sit down, stand. Let gravity work for you.

Autoimmunity
7
5 days ago

God I miss Futurama.

AutistcCuttlefish
11
5 days ago

Show 'em pictures of obese diabetics patient's missing limbs and with open sores. That'll get 'em to shut up.

Edit: Might also have other unintended consequences, like giving 'em nightmares, but let's not quibble for tiny details like that.

c_for
7
5 days ago

To be fair, the logic is pretty poor. Even if buying this chocolatey cereal is the scale tipping decision that would cause diabetes, it is a disease that is manageable if you treat it with care. And thats ignoring the likely medical advances to come over my lifetime that will cure or at least mitigate the symptoms further. Loosing a foot to diabetes is unlikely.

So... Plllllleeeeeeaaaaaaaaaasssssssssseeeeee!

NO

Pssst, dad check out this cereal.

do_pm_me_your_butt
16
5 days ago

I know the feeling. Feels shit but the reality is mom really doesnt hold it against you

KarlBarx2
8
5 days ago

Okay, but scaring children into thinking they'll lose a body part if they eat sugary cereal is a great way to give them unhealthy ideas about sugary cereals when they become old enough to buy the cereals themselves. Strictly speaking, it's also not true.

MadTouretter
4
5 days ago

Unhealthy ideas about sugary cereals? Thinking they should be avoided is not an unhealthy idea at all.

KarlBarx2
5
5 days ago

Yes, but giving a child a complex about it can and does backfire when they reach adulthood. Some people binge on the foods they were denied as a child the moment they gain some independence, as a way of rebelling against their parents' strict rules.

multi-instrumental
8
5 days ago

I know you're joking... but that's not how diabetes works. lol

pbj986
5
5 days ago

As a parent the real answer is:

“Because you’ll try it once, hate it, and then I’ll have to throw the rest out.”

theCroc
103
5 days ago

It's illegal to sell drugs on the street corner but put a nice package on it with a spiffy logo and they will let you sell it on TV.

owningmclovin
53
5 days ago

Yeah there is literally no difference between a bag of heroin from dirty mike and medicine prescribed by a doctor and administered by a pharmacist. Literally the same thing.

theCroc
35
5 days ago

Of course I'm being a bit facetious, but I do have a point. Why are drugs marketed on TV? Since when does the patients have the knowledge and experience to know what prescription drug they need? Shouldn't that be up to the doctor?

What the ads are doing is to create a pressure on the doctor to give in to the patients demands and prescribe drugs that perhaps they shouldn't. It's a cynical move to make ignorant TV watchers want drugs they don't need and then pester their doctors about it.

Buttholehemorrhage
5
5 days ago

Money money money

theCroc
7
5 days ago

The way american doctors and pharmacies has been handling them it might as well be. The Opioid Crisis didn't come about because of responsible prescription practices.

RogueJello
4
5 days ago

Actually it might have. There is excellent evidence that doctors were deceived about the addictive qualities of Oxycontin.

woketimecube
11
5 days ago

Then their expertise referenced above isnt much more help than whatever dirty mike tells you.

ilaughallthetime
24
5 days ago

Don't forget to have a cartoony mascot.

CajunTurkey
68
5 days ago

Yes, because a big penis mascot named "Mycoxafloppin" dances around on my TV during a Viagra commercial.

arvzi
11
5 days ago

"mommy, I suffer from erectile dysfunction" // "..."

CajunTurkey
17
5 days ago

"First of all, you're 8 years old. And a girl."

RamenJunkie
8
5 days ago

"But TV says I need to ask my doctor about this. Take me to the doctor, I feel sick."

nalydpsycho
12
5 days ago

Canada allows drug ads, but with the caveat where you can say what it does or say the name of the drug.

Leeph
9
5 days ago

In addition to that, they say all the bad aftereffects

nalydpsycho
17
5 days ago

Thats the American commercials. You can tell which feed you are getting as the American commercials inspire existential dread from the side effects, while Canadian ones are vaguely surrealist and confusing.

dozyXd
20
5 days ago

In Lithuania we don't have drug commercials, but we have a LOT of pharmacy commercials on TV

owningmclovin
7
5 days ago

Like commercials about one pharmacy over another? Like: Come to CVS when you're here you're family?

If all they are doing is advertising a place to fill prescriptions and buy OTC meds I dont see how that's a problem.

Eatsweden
7
5 days ago

I don't know about Lithuania, but where I've been in Europe there aren't really these big chain pharmacies. More small independent places that only sell drugs instead of being half a grocery store

sappydark
11
5 days ago

That's what I love about Netflix---no stupid commercials at all whatsoever interrupting what you watch every five minutes like youtube does. The only commercial you'll see on there is a trailer for whatever new movie or show they'll be streaming this month or week, and you don't have to watch them unless it's something you might like.

imprecis2
5
5 days ago

Poland also allows it.

colako
44
5 days ago

The EU doesn’t allow advertising of prescription drugs. You’ll have ads for over the counter drugs, like ibuprofen.

imprecis2
10
5 days ago

Ok. I thought it was for drugs in general. Yes, I don't see any prescription drugs ads.

Erryuio
3
5 days ago

You've got ads for prescription meds in the US? Doesn't the doctor usually decide what meds you get on your prescription?

apathetic_lemur
186
5 days ago

Taking the time to explain how commercials are designed to literally deceive them helps.

Neckbeard_The_Great
170
5 days ago

It helps a little bit, but being aware of the tactics doesn't make you immune to them.

CactusCustard
187
5 days ago

I work in the ad industry and notice them working on me all the time. You cant stop it 100%. Theyre literally designed for it, with science. They cant not work on you really. It just needs the right one.

Inb4 "im super duper smrt and special and ads dont work on me! hur dur. If you honestly think this, theyre working even better.

JoseyGunner
64
5 days ago

Yup.

You can only mitigate the affect of pervasive ads by healthy spending habits.

Why do you buy Minute Maid OJ and not the Kroger brand? Cause it tastes better? No, its branded. So it costs 2$ more but you dont even think about it.

You just grab it and go.

anticommon
69
5 days ago

Yeah but I'm still fucking pissed every time I go to steam veggies I have the fucking Stanley Steamer theme stuck in my head. They should be paying rent if their ad is going to be running in my head for two fucking decades+.

JoseyGunner
20
5 days ago

Tough on dirt, Gentle on carpet.

420wasabisnappin
3
5 days ago

Have not seen a Stanley steamer carpet commercial in years upon years and I still sing that to myself weekly.

JoseyGunner
6
5 days ago

I still to this day sing the Cat Dog theme whenever I see my cat and dog chilling together.

goldman60
9
5 days ago

Stanley Steamer your carpet cleaner

427BananaFish
17
5 days ago

It’s typically just “regular” food items like canned goods, frozen vegetables, spices, etc that have no discernible difference between brand and store-brand. Snack foods like Cheetos, Funyuns, sodas, juices, etc have imitators that don’t come close to the original, unless one prefers the distinctly different taste of the off-brand.

TheNoseKnight
12
5 days ago

unless one prefers the distinctly different taste of the off-brand.

Marshmallow Mateys > Lucky Charms

CakeAccomplice12
6
5 days ago

In my experience store brand OJ does taste significantly worse than branded ones

woketimecube
6
5 days ago

I only buy store brand lol

parad0xchild
3
5 days ago

Yeah, everyone should go through the effort of trying the different options and determine what tastes good to them and is worth it for the price.

You'll find plenty of things you can cheap out on, and others that are totally worth it to spend more

Bainie
4
5 days ago

Ehhh, this isn't always true, esp with OJ. Kroger brand is from concentrate and the Simply Orange is not from concentrate and doesn't taste like shit to be honest. Plus the added sugars and stuff in the from concentrate.

A lot of times price doesn't equal quality but many times it does.

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4
5 days ago

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Androne
18
5 days ago

"im super duper smrt and special and ads dont work on me!

Also knows that McDonalds exists and goes there when they are too lazy to make food... Buys all the familiar brands just because.

Disk_Mixerud
4
5 days ago

McDonald's is my go to desperate drive through food just because I know exactly what to get there that's cheap and satisfying. It's feels safe and predictable. That's a pretty rare occurrence though.

Pascalwb
8
5 days ago

True. I always thought they didn't work on me. As I would never buy anything because it was in an ad. But once you are buying something and you have choise of 5 noname brands, but 1 you seen before. Well somehow you are inclined to buy that one.

Coal_Morgan
12
5 days ago

I pick up the packages now and read the ingredients and nutritional information. If the ingredients and nutes are in the same order and same percentages. There's a solid chance it came from the same place so I buy the cheaper brand.

The manufacturer knows that Toasted Chocolate-Os cost $1 to make. They know with proper branding and advertising they can get $3 for Rico the Rhino's Toasted Chocolate-Os. They also want poor people's money to so they'll sell No-Name Chocolate Mostly Os in a plastic bag for $2.

I have no problem with the No-Name Chocolate Mostly 0s and a spare dollar.

Disk_Mixerud
7
5 days ago

The mistake people make is thinking that the ads are primarily trying to influence your conscious decision making process.
Jeep ads aren't necessarily trying to convince you that they're the best option for your needs based on price and performance. What they want is that when you think, "You know, I want to be a more carefree, adventurous person" you picture yourself and your friends in a Jeep.

Sketch_Bug
9
5 days ago

Inb4 "im super duper smrt and special and ads dont work on me! hur dur. If you honestly think this, theyre working even better.

Good lord, fuck off with that. Plenty of people just buy the cheapest and most cost effective food on the shelf. I'd love to hear what you think I waste money on as you're guaranteed to be completely full of shit.

edit: for example, I'm cooking store brand rice and lentils right now. bUt i mUSt hAVe bEeN FOoLed bY aDs!!!1 like what ads, lmao

edit again: So I'm seeing a few downvotes but not much in the way of counterarguments. Have you guys ever considered that maybe you're yuppies immersed in a culture of conspicuous consumption, and maybe not everyone lives that way? I'm reminded of the kind of guy who goes to /r/povertyfinance and tells them to stop spending $5 on coffee every day. Just completely culturally unaware. Think it over and next time, save your "durr hurr" for when you look in the mirror :)

RamenJunkie
15
5 days ago

There are also cases where the "brand name" does actually taste better/different as well. Especially if you start pushing into the lower tire of generics.

Buying a brand name doesn't always mean it was effective advertising.

Sketch_Bug
11
5 days ago

Yeah that's true. The other comments about cereal reminded me that some generic varieties of sugary cereal taste pretty bad compared to the name brand. I'm an old man who just eats raisin bran etc though.

OverlordWaffles
6
5 days ago

Honey Bunches of Oats, man. Generics taste like crap so I'll buy name brand of it only

RamenJunkie
2
5 days ago

Generic mayo is nasty. The texture is all weird.

mtizim
4
5 days ago

I just wanted to say this but i scrolled to see that you did.

I took a hard look around myself and there's no single thing that i bought because it or the store were advertised. Unless having stuff visible in a store somehow counts as advertising.

TunaMustard
4
5 days ago

You don't have to buy something for advertising to have an impact.

Sketch_Bug
6
5 days ago

That's an interesting point, and one I hadn't considered. I can think of examples too. Like when I see an ad for Apple it makes me want to buy literally anything else.

Hard to prove though, setting aside our esteemed colleague's vague claim about "science."

Isaac331
2
5 days ago

People hear the word science and turn their brain off.

Psychology is a pretty subjective science and I'm better off reading my horoscope. (/s on the horoscope thing cause people are stupid.)

Tebeku
96
5 days ago

Every healthy breakfast contains a shit ton of small cookies drowned in cows milk.

oldcarfreddy
23
5 days ago

American diets are fucking TERRIBLE. Places like Starbucks have changed, but it's hilarious how even 7-8 years ago you'd go to a place that's a little more health-conscious and the breakfast counter was literally all desserts at any coffee shop. Mmmmm, diabetes as the first meal of the day!

I still remember when Starbucks introduced breakfast sandwiches as a "healthy alternative" to all the cakepops and honeybuns. Now most decent coffee places will have some salads and yogurts and stuff but it's definitely a sign that these options stick out where people are used to pastries and kids are used to sugar cereals for breakfast. People are more likely to look weirdly at a salad for breakfast than a cookie for breakfast.

Moruitelda
10
5 days ago

the breakfast counter was literally all desserts at any coffee shop

Yeah, I try to avoid sugar for breakfast when I can, so my choices are basically... croissants, and that's it. Doughnuts are dessert. Pancakes and waffles are dessert. Pastries are dessert.

Give me bacon, eggs, and maybe some toast or an English muffin or something.

pompr
13
5 days ago

White flour is still easily converted to sugar, though. I feel like some sausage and eggs is the way to go, or just skip breakfast altogether and have a bigger lunch/dinner.

steaknsteak
5
5 days ago

Processed meat isn’t exactly healthy either unfortunately. I love breakfast food but I can’t eat any of it and feel good about myself anymore

230409abc
5
5 days ago

Oats? Fruit, cereals like bran, egg-based meals?

c08855c49
13
5 days ago

I like to think ads don't work as well on me because I hate them and don't buy something if I see an ad for it. I know some stuff gets through but my hate of advertising is so much that I heard a Subway commercial play on "subradio" station they play in Subway and I never ate there again because why would you advertise to me while I am eating there?! The job was done! I wanted a sandwich, thought Subway, went there. And then they still try to advertise to me. Ugh

I think I may just hate Subway

StudMuffin9980
7
5 days ago

pretend Reddit is only used by adults, and this post is an example of advertising working well on adults

Buhsketty
18
5 days ago

Watched the news one morning and my daughter came up to me and said "Did you know you can trust the Midas touch"

I had no clue what she was even talking about at first then she said she saw it on TV.

AdamWestsBomb
12
5 days ago

I remember I used to tell my parents I had great news. The news being I just saved 15 percent or more on car insurance by switching to GEICO

Moruitelda
13
5 days ago

I just saved 15 percent or more on car insurance by switching to GEICO

You could save 15 percent. You also might not. You might also save more. But also, perhaps not.

Those commercials are literally, "Make a 15 minute phone call, and you may or may not save money."

viciousbreed
5
5 days ago

When I was a little kid, I thought these commercials for a sporting goods store here in the US were actually showing a place you could go DO all that stuff. Rock-climbing, white-water rafting, camping... they had it all! I kept saying I wanted to go there, which must've been pretty perplexing for my parents. One day, my older brother figured it out, and burst my bubble about it just being a store, not the place to actually DO all that.

In my defense, we have several well-known theme parks near us, and their commercials all looked/sounded similar.

matttyfreshh
10
5 days ago

really? my kid just tells me the ads are annoying and makes him not want the product

celica18l
12
5 days ago

Your kid is awesome for this.

My kids get the stupid jingles in their heads and hum the songs.

xantub
9
5 days ago

It happened to me soooo many times (as a kid).

Phyltre
3
5 days ago

Listen, Fruity Pebbles is basically the best flavor ever devised.

Sirsilentbob423
5
5 days ago

I have wax melts in my house that smell exactly like fruity pebbles. It's glorious.

DaveSW777
762
5 days ago

Nah, I throw money at making that commercial free too. They know to skip the in-video sponsored segments too.

RyEKT
551
5 days ago

Install uBlock Origin on your PC browser and access YouTube through the 'Brave' app on your phone. No ads and it's free.

Turtvaiz
216
5 days ago

Or use YouTube Vanced or Newpipe.

LeChatduSud
93
5 days ago

Same here on Newpipe is just priceless to see the people reaction when i put a yt list on playback and switch off the screen 🤣

BattleStag17
62
5 days ago

You can close your phone's screen on Newpipe!? I gotta check this out.

Edit: Nothing called "Newpipe" seems to exist on the Google Play store. Unfortunate.

Bobbarp
136
5 days ago

neither Newpipe or Vanced are on the Play store, you need to google them and download it from their website.

BattleStag17
22
5 days ago

Ohh, I see. Thanks!

Banana-Man6
78
5 days ago

Try using F-Droid to get them instead, it's a play store replacement that only has verified free open-source software on it. It will make it easier to keep them updated too

EfficientBattle
30
5 days ago

Only open source apps, only verified stuff so no Spyware or viruses as some "apps" on the playstore. Google should curate their store, all too much outright shady stuff gets released

onyxrecon008
13
5 days ago

FYI it's not on the Google store because it's against their TOS. Google doesn't spy on you when you download apps beyond regular store usage data.

BattleStag17
10
5 days ago

Ah, gotcha. I guess I'll need to do some research on what .apk files and F-Droid are, thanks

EdwardTennant
10
5 days ago

An apk file is an archive for android apps. When you open an apk file, you will be promoted to install the app. You may need to allow apps from unknown sources in your security options though

F droid is basically an alternative to google play

TheSicks
8
5 days ago

I never realized that prompted any promoted were just one letter apart.

TWeaKoR
9
5 days ago

Yes!! It's available on fdroid and it allows you to choose the bitrate of the video and/or audio files you download and also works for SoundCloud.

Buwski
6
5 days ago

He tells the truth. Newpipe is fantastic.

ezclapper
14
5 days ago

wow, browsing reddit for 4 hours at work today finally paid off, Newpipe is awesome, don't know how I've never heard of it before

Rediwed
5
5 days ago

Vanced is better if you like good UI.

Haddas
6
5 days ago

They both have their own strengths. Vanced is literally YouTube without ads, but newpipe has other options. Downloading and playing as just audio etc. I use both

pound_sterling
33
5 days ago

Already got uBlock but didn't know about Brave. Thanks for the tip!

Kirkleon_
8
5 days ago

You can also just use firefox mobile with ublock origin - and you can add extensions to let you play youtube while the app isn't on the screen

Sevigor
3
5 days ago

There's a Brave browser for desktop too. Auto-blocks ads and block tracking cookies. It's faster than Chrome and you don't need to get additional ad-blocking extensions.

[deleted]
3
5 days ago

Their 'faster than chrome' ad compares adblocked brave to non-adblocked chrome. Not really apples to apples.

megalurkeruygcxrtgbn
4
5 days ago

I mean, if the browser is inherently ad-blocked then yes, it will be faster and it's not wrong or misleading to say that.

edit: it's misleading because it's not actually two stock browsers -- it's a stock browser and the same browser with an add-on.

mrdoubleq
12
5 days ago

Just tried Brave and it did block the ads. Thanks! Will try it with pornhub now.

latherus
62
5 days ago

18 minutes and u/mrdoubleq hasn't returned. Safe to say it works on pornhub

ivel501
25
5 days ago

What was he/she/it doing with the other 15 minutes I wonder?

babbyatemydingo
6
5 days ago

Pornhub still has some kinks in it (pun intended) where videos may load a bit slower, but it's nice to not have ads popping up.

picardo85
13
5 days ago

Get a raspi and make a pie hole and ALL your devices are ad free while at home.

mariomonster20
17
5 days ago

This doesn’t work for sites with self-hosted ads like YouTube and Hulu. If you know a way to get rid of those on my Nvidia Shield I am all ears.

brute_force
3
5 days ago

doesnt work on twitch as well sadly. been trying to find a workaround

iGotMoXy
3
5 days ago

have you tried the alternate twitch player extension available on firefox and chrome? I don't have a pie hole but I do use ublock origin and the alternate player on my desktop and get an ad-free experience. Don't know what to do for your mobile devices though :(

shtankycheeze
3
5 days ago

alternate twitch is the tits

[deleted]
3
5 days ago

How do things work if you're on one of those websites that forces you to turn off adblock? Is it easy to temporarily turn it off or to add exceptions?

Hans_Brickface
6
5 days ago

Install uBlock Origin on your PC browser and access YouTube through the 'Brave' app on your phone. No ads and it's free.

And then have to skip past a fuckton of sponsored Squarespace and Dollar Shave Club ads. I am a Premium subscriber, but since this bullshit started, my Youtube use has drop precipitously.

PhantomBear_626
5
5 days ago

Remember to support the creators you watch

apathetic_lemur
3
5 days ago

Got a fix for roku?

RDay
80
5 days ago

This post is, in fact, a commercial for Netflix. Say it with me, team....

phat_ninja
37
5 days ago

Hail corporate!

techlos
12
5 days ago

ding ding ding, we have a winner! Explicit advertising is basically a legacy thing at this point - all the infrastructure is there so it's still being used, but as more people move towards ad blocking, astroturfing methods start to increase. Why pay tens of thousands of dollars to saturate youtube or a tv station with ads, when you can throw a few hundred to a website to write a favorable article, get it linked on social media, and let the customer spread the ad for you?

SuperSMT
5
5 days ago

Or just make a good product, and you can pay $0 and let social media do the talking for you. That's what most of these "hailcorporate" posts are really. Real people can talk about brands without being compensated, you know.

cantaloa
4
5 days ago

as even the sidebar of hailcorporate says, the point is that people become walking ads for everything. the point of the sub isn't to call everyone a shill.

in fact the sheer amount of advertising that people do for free is staggering. that's one of the major purposes of the sub. and no, the point isn't that everyone should shut up and never mention a brand name. it's just interesting and often unsettling.

especially when a blatant but fair explicit ad gets downvoted to oblivion (like an indie dev sharing their game in /r/gaming) while everyone is 100% happy with all the posts that advertise the same three AAA games.

ImStillaPrick
4
5 days ago

Ughhh my niece watching Blind Boxes being opened for 4 hours straight when she stayed the night. I am so glad she grew out of that.

bobo42o24
94
5 days ago

Mobile users bro. Most of us reddit on our phones.

Bitlovin
100
5 days ago

You can still adblock on phones.

owenwilsonsdouble
21
5 days ago

You can still adblock on phones.

?!?!?! How, can I ask?

Edit: Thank you all so much!

Glasse
33
5 days ago

Download Firefox, install ublock

Mitch2025
7
5 days ago

Doesn't work with apps. Adhell was good for system wide no root adblock on Samsung phones but Samsung decided to stop offering the service that made it possible for normal users

aquaman501
16
5 days ago

Almost all the other replies to your post assume you have an Android phone. Firefox extensions, Newpipe and Vanced are all Android only. On iPhone you can only block ads through the browser, either in Safari using content blockers (like this) or with an ad-blocking browser (like this).

RainbowAssFucker
11
5 days ago

firefox my dude

TheXelerate
8
5 days ago

YouTube vanced

Rediwed
6
5 days ago

If you're running Android 9 Pie you can use Adblock's private DNS. No need to use other apps and it blocks ads in all apps (except YouTube).

SlamDunkPanda
6
5 days ago

I use Brave browser. Got a really nice adblock as well as some other privacy features. I'm sure there are other ways also but this works great for me.

CalcProgrammer1
4
5 days ago

Root and AdAway for app ads, Newpipe for YouTube, Firefox + uBlock Origin for web ads.

CAP_NAME_NOW_UPVOTE
15
5 days ago

Brave is adding in ads of their own replacing the ones that are currently blocked and they're being sued for it. Use Firefox + regular ublock origin just like your desktop setup.

Shajirr
6
5 days ago

Mobile users bro.

Why though? Ignorance? There are browsers with adblocking and adblockers on mobile too

teaearlgraycold
4
5 days ago

Firefox mobile.

TriangleMan
4
5 days ago

Do you use YT through FF then?

Lifeisjust_okay
67
5 days ago

No, no. The YouTube videos ARE the commercials. Bf's kid never watched cartoons anymore, he only wants to watch "toys". Literally just people, usually adults, playing with paw patrol, pj masks and Peppa pig toys.

It's so...weird.

GrandmaDoggies
16
5 days ago

its really not if you think about it. millions of people enjoy twitch streaming of videogames. its the adult version of your kid watching toys on youtube

OtherSpiderOnTheWall
10
5 days ago

You're right. Twitch is really fucking weird. Either I'm going to play the game, or I'm not. I'm not going to watch randos play a game.

I could buy the "sports" argument not being as weird, but then they're not exactly random people, are they now?

Triquandicular
19
5 days ago

Isn't the only reason sites like YouTube still make money and exist because of the fact that not everyone has an adblocker? A lot of people have adblockers, but for the majority that is not the case (yet). I mean, sites like YouTube aren't the most well liked for some things they've done, but it still stands true that they need ads to exist.

Zap__Dannigan
4
5 days ago

Me. Because I don't spend money on many things I do on the internet, and if watching an ad helps the content creator I enjoy, I'll gladly do it.

[deleted]
4
5 days ago

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olderaccount
90
5 days ago

Maybe not traditional commercials, but they are still constantly exposed to the ever increasing amount of product placement within the shows they watch.

whitefang22
31
5 days ago

Not when all my kids watch are old shows and movies I like/picked out on my Plex server.

thewonpercent
33
5 days ago

"dad, can I get a walkman? I saw it on tv"

soawesomejohn
25
5 days ago

Definitely need to be involved with what the kids are watching. It's not a "hand them a tablet and check on them in a few hours" deal. I edited my comment above, but when he was 4, we had to deal with some fake "paw patrol" videos that seemed to promote violence. It was quite obvious that these weren't Nickelodeon productions, and he could recognize them on site as well. Like you, we tried blocking the uploader (that only stops them from commenting on your videos). Even if you report one of their videos, the others they uploaded show up again.

What we ended up doing was basically explaining that we didn't want him watching those. He was smart enough to know which were the fake and real ones. He was like "but i like them" at first, but once he understood that if he kept watching them, he wouldn't be allowed to use the tablet, he agreed. Then we even showed him how to hit the three dots and report the video. Over the next couple weeks, he would let us know when one came up and that he didn't watch it. After a week or so, they stopped being recommended to him.

JDN87
8
5 days ago

There is a chrome extension to block channels/users from showing up at all. Everytime I saw her watching some shitty toy opening channel I'd block them. Then I realised it was easier to just not let her watch YouTube. There is so much content on Netflix, Stan, Amazon prime and our free to air channels stream too and some of it is really good educational stuff.

Tigerzombie
3
5 days ago

I have YouTube premium. Besides the ad, the best part is that it allows you to download YouTube videos to watch offline. Makes long car rides much easier with the kids.

Hq3473
3
5 days ago

It really is.

Goonred
6
5 days ago

How'd you get that working for Youtube? It's one of the biggest hurdles and I can't seem to find a solution for it.

BAKACHEWYCHOMP
3
5 days ago

There is no solution. You can get rid of many ads but YouTube’s DNS is hard coded into their apps. PiHole works great via browser but can’t do shit for the apps.

Source: I pay for YouTube Red so that my wife/kids are not inundated with ads. And for YT Music.

Zcypot
16
5 days ago

Not great for kids anyway, i removed youtube from all devices my daughter uses.

uMac79
13
5 days ago

Same as. Between that creepy fcuk blippi, the constant pitching of toys to kids (watch me play with toys shows!) and the random braindead crap on there I had enough. If there's anything I like then I'll download and put it on plex for them.

Zcypot
3
5 days ago

yeah plex is ideal

ganpachi
5
5 days ago

I keep my kids away from YouTube as much as possible. I always trust that their algorithms will inevitably start showing weird Spider-Man Elsa videos and Ryan’s Toy Review knockoffs.

G-I-Luvit
5
5 days ago

Kids shouldn't be using youtube anyway 🤷🏿‍♂️

RyEKT
4
5 days ago

Install uBlock Origin on your PC browser and access YouTube through the 'Brave' app on your phone. No ads.

soawesomejohn
11
5 days ago

Didn't know about the Brave app. I'll check it out and load it on the kid's tablet.

He usually ignores ads, but recently he's been telling us that if we get a Hyundai, we can get rewards.

B_Blunder
10
5 days ago

lmao, what kind of videos is your kid watching to where Youtube algorithms peg him as a sensible middle income adult?

fourfiguresalary
1072
5 days ago

Wife and I were talking about this. Our kids have no idea what the “must-have” toys are. They are 6 and 7 and still love Pokémon stuffed animals.

I remember a bunch of toy commercials from my youth... “cross fire!” Comes to mind when I think of memorable toy jingles.

aosdifjalksjf
265
5 days ago
fourfiguresalary
84
5 days ago

That’s awesome. I thought that was such a cool looking game and the kids looked so bad ass.

AgentBootyPants
41
5 days ago

It was so loud. And good luck keeping track of the little metal balls. Oh man. Fun though if you could find someone else to play with

shawndaddy
8
5 days ago

When I was 5, circa 1989, I lived in a rather large apartment complex. I'd say maybe a dozen buildings with 4 apartments each. Anyways, I took one of those metal ball bearings and stuck it in a telephone jack. It fried the entire phone system. Every single apartment in the complex. It took them days going from apartment to apartment to track down where the problem was. But yeah, it was a fun game.

NotExactlyLiterally
16
5 days ago

It's crazy to think how many people conspired to get you to think that. Someone thought it up, convinced others, there were sound and wardrobe and hair choices, graphical artist involved, directors and cinematographers, casting agents, child actors. All to convince a small boy (assuming) to get his parents to purchase some cardboard, plastic and ball bearings.

It really is kind of wild.

theresonly151
5
5 days ago

It was, and still is, a very fun game. Which this is actually an updated version to one from 1971 which is slightly bigger but same concept.

[deleted]
3
5 days ago

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TwatsThat
6
5 days ago

Wasn't that a thing in Yu-Gi-Oh? Did this commercial inspire that show?

[deleted]
4
5 days ago

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pixl_graphix
89
5 days ago

My daughter: I want an iPhone X.

Me: No.

MD: Why? Please?

Me: No, they are $1000 and you lose or break just about everything.

Origami_psycho
94
5 days ago

Just don't give her a Huawei phone or she'll turn into a sleeper agent for Beijing or something.

pixl_graphix
48
5 days ago

Really that's any phone these days. They are all trying to record your every move or action. I kinda wish there was a way of saying "This device is used by an underage person and is protected by the COPA. Do not record any data for metrics or advertizing on it".

Origami_psycho
31
5 days ago

Yeah. Problem is they'd expect probably you to prove that it was only the minor using it. And even then, they'd likely still find a way to track it and glean some useable metrics indirectly, and knowing its a kid would probably be even more valuable since they could just "incidentally" have all the adds that appeal more to kids start popping up.

Only thing to do is get this shit blocked across the board and regulated at the federal level.

The_Pert_Whisperer
5
5 days ago

Really that's any phone these days.

I'd rather have Jeff Bezos personally inspecting my junk daily through my phone camera than give my data directly to the Chinese government

Riaayo
11
5 days ago

But how about neither?

Cybernewt
3
5 days ago

I'm just looking forward to the real FOSS phones getting out abd then banish Google from my life for good

gopher1409
21
5 days ago

Yeah, it’s all “must have mobile games/apps” now. I honestly hope brick and mortar toy stores make it to my child’s “toy-wanting years.” There can be no better feeling than the satisfaction of seeing a child freak as they unwrap their most wanted toy...

accioqueso
19
5 days ago

So I'll let you in on a secret, when they don't know what they want (because they don't know what they don't have), they're happy with any toy/gift. My son's favorite toys always come from his godparents. They're DINK engineers and give him age-appropriate, engineering oriented toys. Many of which I had never heard of until he opened them for the first time. Right now his favorite thing is a marble building track (the sort where the marbles go down different shoots and things) that has probably never had a TV commercial.

theresonly151
19
5 days ago

The object of the game is to fire steel balls at the larger steel balls with the purple around them to knock them into the opponents tray.

clive_bigsby
10
5 days ago

You use the guns to shoot little steel balls at these two plastic discs in the middle, trying to push the discs into the "goal" area of your opponent to win. It was actually a pretty fun game as a kid.

krohmium
34
5 days ago

That's why companies have started to advertise through 'infouencers' on YouTube. Whoever your kids' favorite YouTube personalities are, I'd be weary or the products that 'randomly' appear on their videos.

itsamamaluigi
10
5 days ago

We don't watch YouTube. I've heard of (and seen) enough weird shit on "kids" YouTube to not let my kids use the app.

I suppose at some point they'll be old enough to figure it out on their own, but for now they only know how to use Netflix and Plex.

Kody_Z
19
5 days ago

The first time my son watched regular TV he was probably 3. When a commercial came on he thought it was the little intermission between Netflix episodes, and he begged my sister in law to start the next episode.

fourfiguresalary
11
5 days ago

So we have a digital antenna for our TV for the local news, our kids love the commercials. Even the ones for stuff like old people medicine, “don’t mute it dad, I like it!”

Kody_Z
3
5 days ago

Lol That's hilarious.

JosephGordonLightfoo
6
5 days ago

Pow pow power wheels.

tesseract4
4
5 days ago

Oh, man. I so wanted one of those when I was a kid. Never got one. A friend of mine had one, but the fucker never kept it charged, so we could never play with it. What a dick.

bk553
4
5 days ago

Skip It! For me.

Hullabalooga
518
5 days ago

Not just our kids. I did research for months and bought a new car last summer - but I’ll be damned if I still don’t see at least 5 car ads a day online.

tulipoika
334
5 days ago

Not to mention “since you bought a new TV, here’s some other TVs you might like!”

CajunTurkey
179
5 days ago

Amazon must think I own about 20 toilets in my mansion because I bought one toilet seat from them.

darealystninja
33
5 days ago

They are just trying to give you fomo

beniceorbevice
6
5 days ago

And literally right after you check out, the first page of recommendations are products that never showed up on your search list. Named and titled exactly the phrase you searched but none of them showed up

tulipoika
25
5 days ago

That’s a great idea... I don’t even need to do it that way. When I was looking at an amplifier some time ago the ads went by IP address so my partner got ads for amplifiers immediately. Too bad they didn’t get the hint. Had to get it myself still.

rabidjellybean
13
5 days ago

Inception through ads. I'll have to this with something fun.

crashorbit
4
5 days ago

I wonder how that is effective. Same here. I search for farm implements and for the next several weeks I see ads for farm implements. I search for plumbing fixtures and for the next several weeks I see adds for plumbing fixtures.

Someone must think it is an effective strategy but I'm not sure how.

Override9636
25
5 days ago

I always try to go incognito mode when doing research on a purchase. Keeps you logged out of profiles like Google and Facebook so you don't get as many ads popped up down the road.

RyEKT
25
5 days ago

Install uBlock Origin on your PC browser and the 'Brave' app on your phone. No ads.

Future_Appeaser
6
5 days ago

You can also get Firefox and install ublock origin as an extension on your phone.

Szymas255
9
5 days ago
acosmichippo
4
5 days ago

ad blocker, dude.

dancindead
460
5 days ago

No wonder Toys R Us went under.

CrotalusHorridus
494
5 days ago

Toys R Us was still viable

They went under because a vulture investment company bought into them and picked them apart for their assets

https://theweek.com/articles/761124/how-vulture-capitalists-ate-toys-r

GoiterGlitter
131
5 days ago

Tried the same with Guitar Center. It's barely hanging on.

sociallyawkward12
91
5 days ago

Does that mean im gonna be able to roll up to guitar center and get everything for 90% off in the near future?

TechFocused
100
5 days ago

Sure, if you want 90% off the screws that held some pictures up.

EmeraldJunkie
48
5 days ago

I went to a Toys R Us just before they went out of business and they has a bin near the tills labelled "everything £1" and it was mostly junk but near the bottom were a bunch of Amiibo's, the 30th Anniversary Mario ones. Grabbed one and went to the till and it scanned up as half price but when I showed the guy they were in that bin he just went "Alright then," then grabbed a manager who knocked it down.

thecheat420
15
5 days ago

If they're $137 screws that's a good discount.

Kaymorve
7
5 days ago

For that price those screws better come with paperwork so I can put them in my airplane!

Acolt706
9
5 days ago

Sources on that? Guitar Center isn’t listed as a subsidiary of KKR or Bain Capital.

stkennedy
18
5 days ago
chubbysumo
12
5 days ago

Both Bain and KKR are known to buy things and then extracting as much cash as possible before closing them or selling them off.

Hattless
4
5 days ago

It also doesn't help that Sweetwater and Amazon are bigger competitors with Guitar Center than ever before.

Horong
7
5 days ago

Your own linked article says the original owners of Toys R Us was sold because it's revenues and profits were stagnating.

The purpose of an LBO in theory is to make some move to restart growth, like Dell, but it's an all-in play. Going private is a viable strategy as the company is no longer beholden to public shareholders. Granted the improvements never really came to Toys R Us but we don't know what was attempted. An LBO can save a stagnating company likes Toys R Us, but if it doesn't the company goes under.

While it's possible Toys R Us could have stayed around, it was only a matter of when, not if, it went down as it is extremely rare for companies to turn it around once they start to stagnate.

TurboGranny
2
5 days ago

Same thing happened to KB toys. This is literally how Mitt Romney made his wealth. Destroying businesses, families, and their pensions.

PXAbstraction
153
5 days ago

Incorrect. Toys R Us was actually holding their own OK until vulture capitalists Bain Capital did a Leveraged Buyout of them, loaded them up with debt to enrich themselves and then let the debt bankrupt the company. That's what these kinds of firms do. Not to say that Toys R Us wouldn't have potentially struggled later regardless but Amazon is not the reason they failed.

EDIT: Here's a good Company Man video discussing the topic.

GrayGrayWhite
84
5 days ago

Bain Capital did a Leveraged Buyout

Mitt Romney founded Bain Capital that bankrupted Toys R Us with predatory Leveraged Buyout.

Mitt Romney has always been the sole shareholder of Bain Capital.

awakenDeepBlue
53
5 days ago

TIL Mitt Romney literally killed Toys R Us.

electriceric
5
5 days ago

And KB Toys

Kennfusion
4
5 days ago

Mitt Romney hates toys!

chubbysumo
12
5 days ago

Wasnt just bain, kkr and vornado did too. They are known to buy things and extract as much cash as possible by charging insane "consulting" fees, and then selling or bankrupting the things they bought.

PXAbstraction
11
5 days ago

Yep, it's an entire industry. US capitalism at its finest.

Science_Smartass
9
5 days ago

How does that work? I read one article but don't know how the firms make money. They buy the company for say 5 billion, charge consulting fees to get however many million, then let the debt bankrupt the company. Aren't they out the purchasing price even if it's leant money? Who eats the cost in the end? This is why I am not a financial person. It's all so confusing to me.

chubbysumo
7
5 days ago

When those three bought Toys R Us, Toys R Us had 2 billion dollars in cash on hand. Those three took out six billion in loans in the company's name, and paid 1.5 billion up front. They literally made five hundred million dollars on the deal. Then they charge insane Consulting fees, management fees, and other bullshit fees, until the company no longer has any money left to pay them, and then they put the company into bankruptcy and sell off all the assets. Those three vulture Capital firms made approximately seven or eight billion dollars from the Toys R Us failure. They literally push Toys R Us into insolvency Justice screw the money out of the system.

Science_Smartass
5
5 days ago

..... I need to digest this information. So selling the assets covered the other X billion they borrowed?

shicken684
10
5 days ago

Starting to suspect this is exactly what is happening to my wife's company right now. They've been profitable for over a decade. Parent company got bought out by some investment firm. Now all their equipment is being sold off, and they were forced to absorb debt from a bancrupt competitor that was also bought up by said investment company.

Now the once profitable business is about to fold due to zero changes on their end. I really don't get any idea why this happens. What was the point of all of it?

PXAbstraction
6
5 days ago

A lot of that debt that the "investment company" saddles the company with is taken by them as profits. They essentially enrich themselves by burdening the companies they acquire.

delfinom
86
5 days ago

Toys R Us went under due to many factors not just Amazon. Walmart having a large toy section didn't do them good either.

great_gape
20
5 days ago

Yes, I forgot about walmart.

thatssoright
55
5 days ago

Still not the reason they went under. The leveraged buyout killed them like it does most companies. They were an old dinosaur, but as someone with kids, the toy section at Target and Wal-Mart suck and sometimes you want to be able to actually see the toy.

There is a market out there for a dedicated Toy Store. Granted, not one as big as what Toys R Us was, but they could have made the shift. The Leveraged Buyout that saddled them with insane amounts of debt that they couldn't pay on even when they were making money is what killed them.

holybrohunter
12
5 days ago

I worked for Toys “R” Us around the time a new company took over. A large portion of that debt was from selling shit WAY below cost to pull in new inventory that just sat there. I worked there for two years and left two years before they shut down. The one here was the busiest/most profitable in its region, and when I went back the last week they were open, there was shit I was trying to sell still sitting in the same spot on the same shelf from when they had that huge change over.

thatssoright
7
5 days ago

A large portion of that debt was from selling shit WAY below cost to pull in new inventory that just sat there

That isn't how a leveraged buyout works. The inventory you saw at stores had nothing to do with why the chain collapsed.

Toys R Us was bought out by an investment firm called Vornado Capital and two different private equity firms; Bain Capital and KKR. These three companies came in and looked at what Toys R Us had and decided to make a purchase. At the time Toys R Us had about 2 billion cash on hand, relatively low debt and around 11-12 billion a year in sales. The three companies paid 6.6 Billion to Toys R Us Shareholders to buy the company. Now, in theory what is supposed to happen with a leveraged buyout (at least according to the companies that do them) is these three companies would come in, take Toys R Us private and re-tool and re-align the company and then when it was turned around they would either sell it to a bigger company for more money, take it public with an IPO, or if it just can't be turned around it would be parted off. The problem is that private equity firms almost never have any intention of rehabbing a company they buy. If they can, then great, but the point of the buyout isn't the long term investment. They are entirely in it for the quick money.

When Vornado, Bain and KKR bought Toys R Us for 6.6 Billion, they didn't walk to the table with 6.6. Billion in cash. They walked to the table with about 1.5 Billion of their own money and then about 5 Billion from various loans, some of which have unfavorable terms and high interest. They don't care because they won't be the ones paying it off. Once the sale is complete, they take that 2 Billion in cash from Toys R Us and boom, they have made their money back. Not one dime of that 2 billion goes to paying off those loans.

Now Toys R Us, as a company, goes from having 2 Billion in cash to being 5 Billion in debt on loans, some of which might have terms that require they pay off the interest within a short time frame, or have payments threshholds they can't reach. They now have to live by the terms of loans they had no say in to get money they have no access to. On top of that, Toys R Us is also now paying "management fees" to Vornado, Bain and KKR, to the tune of millions a year to each.

So now, a company that had stagnant sales and stores badly in need of a refresh, a new logistics system to be able to track inventory better and a complete overhaul now not only has no money to invest in what is needed to make those changes, but the only way they can get any kind of capital to do that is to take out more loans, which are harder and harder to get because suddenly they have 5 Billion in debt and are barely making enough money in profit to be able to make those payments. EDIT: I forgot to add that with this added debt, it makes it harder to get favorable terms from suppliers. Now instead of being able to get more on credit from toy companies, they now have to front even more money for what they buy because they have so much debt that they can't be guaranteed to be able to make the payments. It all starts to snowball.

Meanwhile, everyone at Vornado, Bain and KKR has not only made their money but has also been on that steady drip of "management fees" helping to suck the company dry while it whithers on the vine. By the time all is said and done the only people that made any money are the 3 investment companies and the original shareholders who sold the company off. The actual company itself and it's employees end up getting completely shafted and screwed over.

So yes, Toys R Us had their problems and were on a downward trajectory when they were bought. But that is a trajectory that could have been turned around. They were still a profitable company, that with the right management and leadership could have transformed itself into something more competitive. Instead they were intentionally bled dry by private equity firms.

WinterIsntComing
3
5 days ago

By the time all is said and done the only people that made any money are the 3 investment companies and the original shareholders who sold the company off.

And, you would assume, the lenders who loaned the find go the 3 investment companies that took presumably very high interest payments from the company to recoup their lending.

chubbysumo
6
5 days ago

Those loans were probably taken out in Toys R Us name, instead of those three Venture Capital firms. It should be illegal to do, it's very corrupt at its core, but it's perfectly legal to buy a company and extract as much cash as fast as possible, and then run away.

thatssoright
7
5 days ago

I worked for a company that was destroyed by a leveraged buyout, so I may be biased.

Leveraged Buy Outs should either be heavily regulated to protect the company and employees or they should be made outright illegal. Very few of them actually turn companies around and they are so predatory that they do way more harm than good.

iFrankler
69
5 days ago

Toys R Us went under because their owners took out too much debt and then it couldn't pay for it. Sales were impacted by Amazon, but it was the interest payments that killed them

kab0b87
76
5 days ago

Two Words Killed Toys R Us: Leveraged Buyout

GrayGrayWhite
39
5 days ago

Better to say Mitt Romney.

cunt-hooks
7
5 days ago

Corruption has the same number of syllables, incidentally.

GrayGrayWhite
38
5 days ago

No Toys R Us went under because Mitt Romney bankrupted it. I am surprised more people don't know about it.

https://nypost.com/2017/09/21/bain-capital-has-now-plunged-two-toy-retailers-into-bankruptcy/

He walks around like a decent human being but underneath he is just the worst kind of parasite.

Excal2
5
5 days ago

He's an actual bad guy from an 80's movie what the fuck.

GoingAllTheJay
29
5 days ago

Most of the shows are just platforms to sell merch, anyway. Every kid seemed to have a Paw Patrol toy or backpack for a while. Toys R Us had too much overhead in their giant retail stores, when you could just avoid the madness of fighting over the latest toy craze by ordering off of Amazon.

Toys R Us is great to wander as a kid, but I think parents understand that surrounding them with cool toys means they will want a lot of those cool toys, raising the cost of your trip with every aisle you walk down.

jayfehr
13
5 days ago

It’s always been that way. Do you thing G.I. Joe, Transformers, He-Man, and TMNT, we’re designed primarily for entertainment?

GoingAllTheJay
4
5 days ago

That's what I'm saying.

Now we just have more Barbie/Hot-Wheels/Lego based shows, to make up for the lack of real estate they get in advertising with the shift to non-linear viewing. They don't need to take a shot-gun blast approach to ads in Saturday morning and 4pm cartoons, because they have their own show the kids can ask for anytime.

AndrewWaldron
4
5 days ago

Few parents today have the extra time to make a completely separate trip to an over-priced, big box dedicated toy store just to buy a toy their smart-phone addicted toddler won't play with for more than a week anyway. Walmart picked up the low-hanging fruit of toy spend at the bottom end of the market, the middle class got squeezed over the last few decades, and Amazon and Target picked what was left.

Canada4
11
5 days ago

Still got Toy R Us up north!

soundwave591
3
5 days ago

They should expand south in 3-5 years. I imagine nostalgia would help them a lot. Assuming they’re doing well that is

Jaxck
5
5 days ago

No, Toys R Us went under because it was being used as a debt-delivery vehicle by the hedge fund which owned it. They did this in three steps:

1) Don't allow Toys R Us to restock or expand. This massively cuts overheads and makes it look like the company is making record profits. This causes the stock price to rise, nets a profit for the hedge fund.

2) Have Toys R Us to take on debt owned by the hedge fund. This nets a profit for the hedge fund.

3) Allow Toys R Us to slide into bankruptcy, effectively blanking the debt its taken on. Several thousand Toys R Us employees lose their jobs & benefits. Anyone who invested in Toys R Us in step 1) loses big time. Toys R Us now becomes a tax write off, this nets a profit for the hedge fund.

So no, Toys R Us wasn't killed by competition (in fact it probably would've kept doing quite well with Baby R Us since most consumers don't buy baby supplies online). Toys R Us was killed in a calculated way to net millions of dollars for a few investors, at the expense of thousands of employees & wider market investors.

NecieThePhotog
422
5 days ago

So does PBS

shyblur
259
5 days ago

I came here to post this! PBS Kids shows no commercials (except for their own shows) and often has educational spots in between shows. It is also free!

TuckRaker
20
5 days ago

Treehouse in Canada does the same thing

ReptileLigit
16
5 days ago

Exept tree house is more "baby shows" pbs can still be bumped to when your 12 instead of 7

TuckRaker
11
5 days ago

I can't argue with that. My almost four year old has moved away from Treehouse quite a bit over the last 8 to 12 months. YTV seems to be one large commercial with shows thrown in every now and then

RideFastGetWeird
77
5 days ago

I fucking love PBS. Their YouTube channel(s) are great, their TV is good, their kids programs are captivating for the kids and not boring but still have value.

NotExactlyLiterally
14
5 days ago

PBS. Their YouTube channel(s)

Holy fuck, I had no idea this was a thing.

Thank you!

RideFastGetWeird
6
5 days ago

Kiss your free time goodbye! Eons is my absolute favorite

E: a lot of their hosts have separate or alt channels too. It's quite the rabbit hole.

SolarDriftwud
4
5 days ago

PBS SpaceTime!!!

EmAreDubs
12
5 days ago

I absolutely love PBS and NPR, and every now and then it hits me how special it is that services like them still exist in a country like the U.S. They strike me as the kind of service that I'd hear about people in Scandinavia having and think "I wish I lived there".

Pokaw0
6
5 days ago

The rest is all of us!

you mean taxes?

btw love PBS too

PurpleMuleMan
5
5 days ago

No! I was saying the opposite. PBS only receives ten percent of their funding from taxes lol

densetsu23
10
5 days ago

Yep, the only TV channels our kids usually watch is PBS and CBC (essentially, Canadian PBS). No commercials.

They do get exposed to commercials when we watch the local news, though, or sports.

BenderDeLorean
242
5 days ago

For 400 hours of advertisement you have to watch A LOT TV.

My kids also watch too much Netflix and classic TV, but 400 hours seems "a bit" unrealistic.

EHP42
380
5 days ago

Typical breakdown in the US is 2/3 show to 1/3 commercial, so to be saved from 400 hours of ads, they're watching 800 hours of Netflix a year. That's 2.19 hours of TV a day, every day. That's a lot, but it doesn't seem like OMG no possible way.

remediosan
153
5 days ago

Those are rookie numbers, tell you kid to pump those numbers up.

Genoce
69
5 days ago

I think your math is off a bit.

If the "2/3 show and 1/3 commercial" ratio is true, and they'd see 400 hours of ads by watching TV, the total time spent with TV should be: 400 hours of ads + 800 hours of shows, for a total of 1200 hours. (400/1200 = 1/3)

1200 hours of netflix, not 800. So it's actually ~3.3 hours a day.

This of course implies that they wouldn't watch any TV at all, and replace all of it with Netflix.


EDIT: now that I think of it, I think the "800 hours total" would be true if you'd expect them to just watch a certain amount of shows, so instead of taking 60 minutes to watch a show (due to 20 minutes of ads), they'd only take 40 minutes on Netflix. But I just feel like people tend to look at more shows when they end up having more time to look at them, so the total time spent in front of a screen would stay roughly the same.

Just to clarify: if you expect people to only watch the same amount of shows as before, it's 1200 hours total before Netflix, and 800 hours with Netflix. If you expect people to spend the same time watching stuff, then it's 1200 hours before and after. Truth is probably somewhere in between.

EHP42
33
5 days ago

I read it as, since they're being "saved" from 400 hours of commercials, they are watching 800 hours of Netflix which would have been 1200 hours of TV, of which 400 hours were commercials.

But that was my base assumption. Yours probably works too. If someone used to plop themselves in front of the TV and zone out for 3 hours, it would have been 2 hours of shows and 1 hour of commercials, and now it would just be 3 hours of Netflix.

TurkeyPits
6
5 days ago

The article claims kids are watching around 4 hours of TV a day (if you divide the numbers they give by 365):

The average 2-5 year old is spending over 1,600 hours a year watching television.

The average 6-11 year old is spending over 1,450 hours a year watching television.

My_First_Prestige
3
5 days ago

It's not actually 1/3 and 2/3's though.

A 2014 study shows that TV ad length averat 15:38 minutes per hour of television.

So about 7:15 minutes of ads for a 30 minutes show.

It's closer to 1/4 ad and 3/4 shows.

Thats why you get 1,200 hours of watching and 1,600 hours with Commercials.

So looks like the way you stated is how they calculated the 400 of savings.

Rognut
7
5 days ago

If you watched 800 hours of content on Netflix rather than the same 800 hours on TV you would have to sit through 400 less hours of advertisements for the same amount of stuff. 1200 hours of TV = 800 hours of Netflix

Genoce
3
5 days ago

True enough, I was just busy editing my comment about that part since I just realized the same thing. :D

Stylose
9
5 days ago

I don't really want to watch Chernobyl but I'm culturally obliged.

kurjax
6
5 days ago

Netflix isn't going to be the only thing they watch though. Seems like a LOT of time in front of a tv

Lightnyn
50
5 days ago

2 hours a day is a lot to you? Hmm that sounds like a small amount to me based on what I see in the people around me

dorkycool
9
5 days ago

Looks like the average US consumer watches almost 4 hours a day.

34590834530598
41
5 days ago

Have you watched nickelodeon recently? My son and I tried to watch an episode of SpongeBob just last week and it was so bad you couldn't even follow what was happening in the show. Literally every 3 minutes. Shit adds up fast

NRMusicProject
35
5 days ago

I've visited my parents and noticed now on cable with movies with less than a two-hour runtime blocked for three hours.

Movies now regularly include over an hour of commercials on cable TV.

I'm actually surprised that we don't yet have a channel dedicated to nothing but 30 and 60-second commercials.

cleeder
27
5 days ago

Don't forget that they cut that 2:00:00 movie to shit so it's actually a 1:37:00 movie.

SuperSMT
12
5 days ago

And sped it up to 1.1x speed...

RollerRagerMD
4
5 days ago

Not to mention putting the credits in a small box at the end, sped up like 15x while an ad plays.

Broadcast / cable TV is such shit.

34590834530598
6
5 days ago

Haha, that's actually an interesting idea. Want to know about the latest kids toys? Tune into 24x7 advert channel 216 on Saturdays at 8-10AM CST

I mean, we already have shopping channel and the made for TV crap but those aren't mainstream ads

Berizelt
19
5 days ago

Seemed a tad high for me as well so I started thinking about it bit more and doing some very light math.

First of all in the article they

... kids 2-5 spend an average of 32 hours per week ... Children 6-11 spend 28 hours...

This means:

The average 2-5 year old is spending over 1,600 hours a year watching television.

The average 6-11 year old is spending over 1,450 hours a year watching television.

Going by those numbers

2-5yo 32h / 7d = ~4,57h/d -> on average 4h 34min of television per day

6-11yo 28h / 7d = 4h/d -> on average 4h of television per day

That seems like quite ridiculous amount of tv per day for me, but I don't think it's unrealistic. Some toddlers might be watching tv pretty much all day and even some of the older ones might do that on weekends, bringing the average up. Now if we'd be talking about median, I'd expect the numbers to be lower.

Another report says

An average U.S. consumer spent 238 minutes (3h 58min) daily watching TV in 2017

This in mind, I'm actually surprised that the average for kids is only so little higher than the average for all of US.

Now I got curious about if there's a big difference between US and Europe, but Statista would have wanted money for that, so Wikipedia to the rescue.

Region min/day
North America 292.6
MENA 249.7
Central and Eastern Europe 222.9
Western Europe 220.5
Latin America 199.0
Asia Pacific 154.5
Rest of world 211.0

Seems Americans watch ~33% more TV than people in Western Europe, which I guess could in part explain why the 4h a day felt high for me. If we'll blindly apply this % difference to the numbers in the article (which we really shouldn't, because that's not reliable at all, but I'll still do it because I couldn't immediately find a source for how much kids in Europe watch TV), the result would be about 3h to 3h 26min TV a day depending the age of the child, which seem completely plausible to me.

shimmering_winter
113
5 days ago

See, this gives me hope. Hope that the youngest kids will be confused and enraged by commercials and advertising. That this confusion and anger will morph into a deeply ingrained hatred for this ridiculous, intrusive shit we all have to deal with constantly. That when they grow up they will have no tolerance for it, and that the advertising industry will die the slow death it deserves.

ThePatchOnTheCouch
21
5 days ago

Best way to stop commercials is to stop watching the TV shows that are 100% funded by advertisers. They’ll feel that pain quickly. If ratings drop, then ABC, NBC, CBS etc can’t charge big bucks for advertisements, and ad companies would go somewhere else to reach consumers.

lordoftamales
8
5 days ago

This is probably the most naive comment I've ever read in my entire life.

lavalampmaster
4
5 days ago

Your comment isn't really productive (as if all mine are :/) but it is a good thing that kids niece have to change to not see commercials. I assume you're thinking about embedded advertisements disguised as legit posts and articles like we have all over reddit. Which, yeah. We need to teach our kids that the internet isn't real; everything you see is fed to you by an algorithm designed to sell you shit and keep you looking at it.

Miss_Awesomeness
13
5 days ago

My kid did that too, I couldn’t explain it I was laughing too hard.

Xeeroy
142
5 days ago

So without Netflix, kids are subjected to well over an hour of advertisements a day? When did this become okay?

I'm telling you guys, if I made the rules, it would be completely illegal to advertise anything to anyone under 15. If you want kids to wear your dumb shoes or play with the newest toy craze, you gotta go through their parents.

Also ads in public places wouldn't be a thing anymore. Only PSA and art installations.

OFC people would still be free to advertise whatever they want on their own property. Your house your rules.

But screw invasive ads that tries to grab your attention by force instead of by being interesting. That would be over immediately as well.

tau_ceti
149
5 days ago

This used to be the case, until Reagan relaxed the rules. That's why kids tv changed so radically in the 80s. It's also the reason shows like GI Joe and He-Man had "lessons" segments at the end of each show. If you wanted to make a half-hour toy ad, it had to teach you something.

latherus
32
5 days ago
Vorsos
18
5 days ago

Much higher quality versions exist here.

the_jak
4
5 days ago

for real though, who has curtains hanging ONTO their stove.

FortyFourForty
5
5 days ago

What specific “rules” did Reagan “relax” that led to a boom in television advertisements directed toward children?

VintageJane
12
5 days ago

I outright refuse to shop at gas stations that do this. No matter what price their gas is.

matttyfreshh
14
5 days ago

i tried, but now all of mine do it. and it's LOUD as fuck. at least if it was subtle i could try to ignore it. I'm about to start putting my earbuds in while i get gas. and then not hear the thief sneaking up behind me...

DetEndeloseSvart
15
5 days ago

If you're talking about the type that appear on the same screen that shows you instructions before you start pumping, try all the buttons around the screen. One of them will mute the audio.

If you mean the type blaring from overhead speakers at all times, I hear that fire is cleansing.

matttyfreshh
4
5 days ago

yeah i have seen the claims that this works, but i've pressed every button on the ones by me and they do nothing. this is SPEEDWAY in the northeast. fuck you SPEEDWAY if you read this

tikirej
10
5 days ago

Paper clip through the speaker hole mutes it as well.

VintageJane
6
5 days ago

I wonder if that could constitute an ADA violation. For people with noise sensitivity, it really is unbearable and none of the mute buttons ever work.

LagCommander
9
5 days ago

I try to avoid them, but those unnamed buttons will mute it. For the most part, if it's got a set of each side of the screen, the one just under the top-right usually mutes it for me.

It's so annoying though, like they never even discount the gas enough to be worth listening to that junk. The world is basically a giant advertisement now.

matttyfreshh
5
5 days ago

yeah i have heard this and i tried all the buttons, they didn't do anything at the 3 stations i use. all speedway. you hear that speedway? i hate you

clo3o5
5
5 days ago

I saw one the other day that taught new vocabulary words between ads lol

ThePatchOnTheCouch
4
5 days ago

Take your money somewhere else. That will get their attention.

Toostinky
6
5 days ago

Yes. Plus, finding the difference between "by force" instead of "being interesting" would be completely arbitrary.

sandwichoflife
7
5 days ago

But then people could still advertise "in public" because if you attach a billboard to a building it's still your property.

[deleted]
5
5 days ago

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BiggerB0ss
3
5 days ago

In Sweden you can't, but since Nickelodeon and CN are broadcast from the U.K we still get the ads.

lukasp5
128
5 days ago

Product placement is happening though.

PM_ME_CATS_OR_BOOBS
58
5 days ago

Sure, that will always happen. But commercials are separate from that and much worse in intensity. Kids shouldn't get used to being sold stuff.

Tehboognish
12
5 days ago

Just get used to sitting in front of this screen. It's all we need them to do.

goes_bump_inthenight
5
5 days ago

...but they're still being sold stuff? It's just more insidious now. Maybe less annoying but no better in the long run, and probably worse.

Spikeball
26
5 days ago

Like Starbucks advertising in Game of Thrones!

MsElleTen
15
5 days ago

Wasn't even a Starbucks cup.

MCplattipus
14
5 days ago

That wasn't even a starbucks cup and yet you think it was.

GoT did nothing for that some online spinster added in the Starbucks brand.

juan_girro
5
5 days ago

And they are getting not so subtle about it either.

It is affecting cinematography and dialogue. Sometimes it is as blatant as Wayne's World's parody of product placement.

Pastyourbedtime
5
5 days ago

Soooo blatant. There's an entire episode of Orange is the New Black where the plot revolves around Cheetos and chocolate bars and shit like that. There's legitimately a scene where two characters are secluded in a hallway and one is being grumpy and the other gives her a Snickers bar and says the Snickers tag line, shows a close up of the candy bar, and then the scene changes a moment later to get back to the program. It was exactly like any Snickers commercial break you've ever seen, except with the characters from the show you're watching.

juan_girro
3
5 days ago

Yeah, that was pretty blatant. What I find worse, however, is when network shows do it. I mean they already dedicate 1/3 of a show's airtime to advertising and they now are going to let it infect your plot?

Froztwolf
44
5 days ago

I would assume that's the time the TV is on, whether the kid is actively watching or not.

someones_in_treble
6
5 days ago

Then they didn’t save them from that amount of commercials either.

SuperSMT
13
5 days ago

4 hours a day. Seems a bit high to be the average, but it doesn't seem uncommon

Jp2585
13
5 days ago

From what I've noticed, shows/movies on TV, tablets, phones, are used to keep the kids quiet/busy. I have no idea what that will do to them, but growing up I spent way more time playing with whatever toys I had and having to use my imagination. Then again, the shows also have creative ideas I could never have imagined as a kid. Makes me wonder if all the tv watching is detrimental at all in early childhood.

thesafeworkone
14
5 days ago

I think the statement "I have no idea what that will do to them" is really relevant here. I don't think people that give kids 4 hours of tv a day do either. I am too lazy to look for any research on it, but kids just being sedentary for so long every day is for sure not good

mikami677
10
5 days ago

I keep bringing this up in different threads, but I have a 5 year old cousin who is glued to an iPad 10+ hours per day.

It gives his mom more time to be glue to her phone 10+ hours per day...

Zastrozzi
6
5 days ago

4 hours of TV a day makes sense.

Mgmnationalharbor
5
5 days ago

This should be so much higher.... the TV is not a substitute for parenting. That’s almost 5 hours a day that’s sickening

Yesitfuckingis
4
5 days ago

That's about 18% of a year, and an average of 4.3 hours a day. That is bonkers.

DepressedPeacock
71
5 days ago

This is kind of like saying "Feeding your kids Froot Loops saves them from drinking 10 gallons of bacon grease".

Teach-o-tron
39
5 days ago

So you're saying it's a huge step in the right direction...?

sneakybreadsticks
5
5 days ago

Yeah. That’s a terrible analogy.

PleasantlyOffensive
4
5 days ago

Do you not let your kids watch tv?

Froztwolf
5
5 days ago

I mean, if you're already feeding them bacon grease...

fhost344
61
5 days ago

See, I knew it was a good thing to let my kids watch Netflix all day. Bet Netflix saves them from, like, bee stings and sunburn too.

ItsBobsonDugnutt
16
5 days ago

It also protects them from weird/horrifying “KID’S YOUTUBE ELSA AND SPIDER-MAN SURGERY COUNTING LEARNING” trash videos.

fhost344
6
5 days ago

My kids got sucked into those a couple years ago before those videos got a lot of media coverage. One was a power puff girl video where the scientist guy kills the puff girls with a shotgun.

Thruhiker99
55
5 days ago

If a child is watching enough television to absorb over an hour a day of commercials, there are some additional problems here

latherus
10
5 days ago

Product placement inside of shows is nearly impossible to side-step, looking at you Subway...

You're always being sold something now, the problem now is people are less likely to even know they're being marketed to.

Edit: fuck Subway and their hebephilia enabling marketing

vitanaut
9
5 days ago

Does your comment count as product placement

fotorobot
8
5 days ago

three hours every single day is a lot of tv.

feman0n
5
5 days ago

Genuine question, have the effects of 2+ hrs/day television been studied? It's easy to say "this is a problem", but do we actually know if there is a problem with that much TV?

There's a demonstrated problem with leading a sedentary lifestyle, but if a kid is regularly active but also watches a lot of TV, is he or she at risk?

Myleg_Myleeeg
3
5 days ago

I watched a lot of tv and I unfortunately succumbed to enjoying movies and good tv programs as an adult. I also unfortunately chose a fulfilling career in entertainment where I animate movies for the next generation of kids like me to enjoy. It’s fucking horrible.

Bobby_Marks2
9
5 days ago

As a parent who has connected with lots of other parents on the issue of Netflix, let me say from a position of great experience that Netflix does not give a flying fuck about children's programming. They populate the platform with garbage shows to say they have it, lack features that would allow parents to regulate or manage their kids' viewing habits, and lack anything that would suggest they want to compete with companies like Disney or Nickelodeon.

Their kids section is the day-old donut case in the Netflix grocery store.

v-komodoensis
9
5 days ago

What kind of features are you talking about? Shouldn't they be supervised while watching it anyways? Do other streaming platforms have these features?

I'm not a parent so I'm looking for insight, I've never thought about this.

Bobby_Marks2
11
5 days ago

Shouldn't they be supervised while watching it anyways?

So I want to speak to this first because it is a good question that leads perfectly into parental complaints about Netflix:

In a perfect world, kids aren't watching TV until they are over the age of five. In a slightly less perfect world, screen time is limited and supervised. But when we consider a population with more than a hundred million kids, tens of millions are likely to be living in homes that don't adhere to the pediatric and education community suggestions. Or rather, it's naive to assume that any reasonable percentage of homes will strictly enforce limits, and supervise TV use, all the time. There is a wide gap between this idealistic pattern of behavior and neglect.

Separate from that, parents have the responsibility of maximizing developmental growth, or alternatively minimizing the negative impact, of the activities their children take part in. This exists in that gray space between the ideal activity and neglect, and this is where a parent would be judging Netflix as an entertainment option for their kids. There is a big difference between 'shouldn't leave my child unsupervised' and 'I cannot have this in my home where my child can get to it without me.' Most parents don't leave their TV remote up in a high cupboard with the cough medicine.

All that said, here are some problems with Netflix that parents have had:

  • Digital streaming is not regulated by the FCC the same way broadcast is, and this includes educational and children's content. The Children's Television Act of 1991 laid down strict requirements for all broadcasted children's programming, regular children's time slots, and advertising. Netflix doesn't need to comply with this, and as a result their kids programming is less educational than any children's programming from any broadcast network.
  • Netflix lacks sorting features. Adults already know how painful this is, but the kids section is terrible for it. A parent turns on a LeapFrog video that teaches phonics, and Netflix decides that the kids should follow that by watching baby color googoo gaga nap time music. It flows seamlessly, so even if the parent is in or near the room (like say, doing chores), they still have to pay close attention so their kids don't end up being exposed to entirely useless media content. Its like ads, except instead of parents being able to exert control later by keeping their wallet closed, the kids know that high fructose corn shows are right there waiting for them to be less than fully supervised.
  • Netflix doesn't offer the ability to nuke shows. This is the #1 thing parents have asked for, for the better part of five years: the ability to hide the content they don't want their kids seeing (or better yet to have an entirely curated space of parentally preapproved shows). When you have kids you realize that Netflix's UI is advertising, and the kids get stuck on it because bright colors and trailers and autoplay. This all leads to another fundamental realization: streaming services want kids to engage their content in ways and amounts that we all know aren't healthy. I'm a responsible parent who likes to build a home media library (books, music, TV, and games) by previewing all of it and only allowing positive stuff into the home. I can't really do that with Netflix, because even if it's not playing it's here in the home.
  • Netflix makes garbage kids shows. I'm not just talking about their attempts at educational content (which suck), but the fact that their in-house kids content lacks any redeeming qualities as entertainment. Sponge Bob isn't what people would consider edutainment, but kids can learn a lot more from it than they can watching what Netflix makes. Much like the way that bad YouTube kids shows manage to be far worse than the worst content Disney or Nick put out.
  • Netflix has a lot of good educational programming, like documentaries and reality TV with STEM value, but it sits on the grown up side of Netflix where autoplay trailers on adult content is enough to make parents skip it. Nothing like wanting to turn on White Rabbit Project, but having your preteens catch half of a trailer for something TV-MA because when all is said and done Netflix uses their UI to advertise and it's in their best interests to bombard users with auto playing video. And its important to understand that every parent has a different take on this stuff, what is or is not appropriate, which is why parenting as a community so strongly desires the mechanisms to control it all.

These problems aren't all unique to Netflix. Netflix has just been made aware of them for years and done nothing to fix them. Which is why, if you stumble into parenting forums and read discussions about streaming TV, a common trend you will see is parents cheering at the thought of Disney having a family-friendly platform coming soon.

No matter how engaged parents try to be, they aren't immune to food poisoning, important phone calls, needing to unplug from kid noise for their own sanity (another thing pediatricians everywhere recommend), or a million other things that can leave a child unattended in front of a TV. And that's really hard to do with streaming services like Netflix.

v-komodoensis
5
5 days ago

Thanks for taking the time to write such a great reply.

I'm honestly surprised they haven't invested in this now that I actually think about it, looks like they need to be shaken up by competition.

MaiaNyx
5
5 days ago

Netflix brings though some great kid's programming (original and reboot) if you're willing to look for it (puffin rock, the magic School bus -old and reboot, etc) but features wise, Netflix is awful. Their kids level profile goes through to PG level rankings, and some of the stuff isn't appropriate for the 2-5 year old range. There isn't really any parental control otherwise.

Take Amazon, though, with FreeTime (their kids service) and you can tailor the age range for content across devices (say age 3-5, and movies, shows, books, apps, everything), remove content you don't want viewed/played, allows usage time settings (4 hours for books, 1 hour apps, 1 hour videos, for instance), etc etc etc.

Otherwise, yes, parents should be watching with their kids. To answer questions, ensure content is appropriate for the child, be able to discuss after, etc. I'll have to dig it up, but I read somewhere that watching with can be beneficial (not as much as reading, projects, etc but better than parking the kid) as long as the content is educational. Another article I saw referenced kids who watched Daniel Tiger (PBS) were generally more empathetic and had better tricks for dealing with feelings.

TV programming can be entertaining and educational when watched well.

TheNarwhalrus
26
5 days ago

Was at the dentist office the other day and they had a cable tv on a kids channel in the waiting room.

I haven't watched cable in years. I can't believe not only, how many commercials there are, but they also have little adds pop up at the bottom during the fucking show, I actually thought it was an internet stream for a second.

I thought it was bad enough before when some shitty sitcom add would scroll across the bottom of my shitty sitcom. Now it's straight up product advertisement...

Like, fuck off cable.

pixl_graphix
6
5 days ago

Heh, my daughter has only really watched Netflix and YouTube in her life. We were somewhere watching TV that was broadcast or cable and she was flabbergasted by so many commercials.

kingmebro
19
5 days ago

Im of the opinion that it should be illegal to make any sort of ad directed at children. Children dont have income, cant be discerning buyers, and are easily swayed by simple commercial theatrics, it seems unethical to market things toward them.

Raziel77
4
5 days ago

yeah but then it's up to the parents if they want to buy it for them or not.

ItsBobsonDugnutt
5
5 days ago

I don’t watch television at home and when I am somewhere where there is a regular TV going some of the commercials make my jaw drop.

Testiculese
5
5 days ago

I occasionally look up at the TV's when I'm at the bar and see a commercial. I usually can't hear it, but just what the the visuals convey is such an insult to anyone of average intelligence.

Almost every commercial I've ever seen makes me hate that company and I will absolutely not buy a product from them ever. They are burned into my "fuck you no sale" pile.

deviantbono
4
5 days ago

Ironically, I've found that to be the one good thing about ads. If I leave my kids with Netflix, Prime, or PBS, they just binge it endlessly, but if I leave them on a normal channel, they'll eventually wander off during an ad break and play with real toys.

-Rito
23
5 days ago

The outdoors can save our kids from over 400 hours of netflix a year..

Testiculese
6
5 days ago

Parents are arrested nowadays for letting their children outside the house without supervising from within 15 feet.

May_I_inquire
5
5 days ago

Books and libraries also do this.

sheepsleepdeep
20
5 days ago

I've already heard from friends in ad sales that they are prepping for Netflix's imminent introduction of a lower priced service that is subsidized with ads for outside companies. Like Amazon's cheap Kindle's. This wasn't some people talking about "what if"- they were actively lining up clients for this.

Netflix's burn rate is $400 for every $1 revenue lift, they need to find a way to slow that down: Ad sales and price increases.

Continuity_organizer
23
5 days ago

Honestly, Netflix's biggest advantage is that it got there first and was able to secure high quality content from studios and networks for a relatively low cost.

Now that the rest of the industry caught up to the value of streaming, Netflix's only advantage is its large existing base of users.

They can't get cheap content anymore, and they have no inherent advantage over competing networks, studios, and streaming platforms when it comes to making their own.

I personally stopped my Netflix subscription after a few years because I could get better content elsewhere. The only exclusive show I was interested in was House of Cards, and that went away a couple of years ago.

spikeyfreak
16
5 days ago

Where are you getting better content?

I only have Hulu other than Netflix, and I'm about to cancel it because I HAAATE that it has long commercials.

Plus Netlfix has a lot of original content, and some good classics like The Office, Parks and Rec, Cheers, etc. If those go away I don't know if they will have problems, but they add a lot of value for a lot of people now.

EfficientBattle
6
5 days ago

Yeah, I don't get him at all. Netflix has the largest library of decent titles by a mile. HBO has 1-2 series yoy want to see at a maximum that are hyped up, like Got or TWD. Crunchyroll is king for anime but lacks everything else. Hulu is advertising with advertising and old dated shows galore.

btlynch14
5
5 days ago

From what I understand Netflix is banking on expanding into new markets in order to stay profitable. They're about to expand into India with a low cost subscription which is going to make them a lot of money. Also why they're constantly creating new content and cancelling others. Some shows are more marketable in other countries. On top of this Netflix can make a lot of money off 1 hit show a year. Used to be house of cards, now it's stranger things

mindbleach
3
5 days ago

It will kill them.

Piracy hasn't gotten any harder and people already hate the fake competition of exclusionary services for different shows.

If they try to "subsidize" people paying directly to watch some goddamn content then they choose to compete with free minus bullshit.

Tablemonster
14
5 days ago

At least someone gets it

ThatIsFuckingStupid
13
5 days ago

I do, too. Fuck Netflix.

loki2002
8
5 days ago

Indoctrination to what?

energyfusion
2
5 days ago

Netflix is indoctrination but regular TV isn't?

merula_merula
4
5 days ago

I mean, the user you’re answering to is from /r/The_Donald so he’s probably trying to say that it pushes some kind of agenda he doesn’t like (which, actually, could be true to a certain extent).

Actually both TV and Netflix, and today’s video on demand services in general are very toxic, in the sense that they are procrastination inducing. That applies to children as well as adults. The content is made with distraction in mind. They want you to watch and watch… and care about things that are ultimately very insignificant in the grand scheme of things. But hey, that’s how they can squeeze some money out of you.

Pascal’s thoughts about distractions are more relevant now than ever.

Also, yes, I do realize the irony of posting this on reddit of all places.

Brofistulation
11
5 days ago

user you’re answering to is from

/r/The_Donald

the conditioning has worked well on you i see lmao

cloudmerchant
8
5 days ago

IT WAS CANCELLED???

What the fuck!? It was one of like 4 Netflix shows I actually liked!

floodlitworld
5
5 days ago

Same here. I understand the Marvel shows ending, but that one? And without a proper ending?

I thought they were supposed to be better.

Redkiller000
6
5 days ago

GODDAMNIT! Dude that shit is stupid, that show had amazing writing and a charming as hell cast and was my favorite Netflix original behind Bojack. Obviously my angered isn’t directed at you but I had to throw that shit somewhere because like cmon, Liv Hewson is adorable and deserve all the attention

StopCreepingOnMyPage
3
5 days ago

That shit in the last season where the two kids were in the kitchen with those two Knights of Serbia and that fucker just holds the knife like he's putting it on display while the girl used hers to kill that dude was hilarious

Poor woozy boy lol

v-komodoensis
13
5 days ago

r/HailCorporate as fuck

1hour and thousands of upvotes. We can do better than this...

foreverTomorrow_
12
5 days ago

You know what also saves children from commercials? Not watching TV and handing them a book.

Tetrafloop
10
5 days ago

And subjects them to 10,000 hours of crap TV

LandmanCA
10
5 days ago

Do you know what else stops them from seeing commercials? Playing outside.

thatshowtheydoit
8
5 days ago

I’m not sure why people would downvote your comment. People on this site are so weird.

antaryon
9
5 days ago

Yeah but how many hours of shitty original series are they exposed to instead? Is it worth it?

EnterraCreator
9
5 days ago

I recently got cable for free because I work for a big time cable company. Anyway we were watching the Harry Potter marathon and my son goes, "Where did the show go? Is it over already? That was extremely short. And what lame show is this?" My son is 7. It never occurred to me that he had never seen a commercial before as we exclusively had Netflix, Amazon Prime, and paid hulu without commercials.

400lbsofautism
8
5 days ago

Stop propping your child in front of a fucking screen.

LemonOtin1
6
5 days ago

When an ad comes up the first thing I do is to mute the computer, tablet or TV. And then I wait for the 'Skip' button.

cornontheecob
6
5 days ago

why is a child watching that much TV in the first place?

Black_RL
5
5 days ago

Or they could be studying or playing outside saving them 400 hours from Netflix.

cakes
5
5 days ago

if you let your kids watch 400 hours worth of commercials per year you're a fucking shit parent. 400 hours of tv at all per year is pretty fucking bad.

koaasst
3
5 days ago

dude, its already too late.

"Kids and teens age 8 to 18 spend an average of more than seven hours a day looking at screens. "

7*365... do that math

Kasperblack
4
5 days ago

"Saves our kids." lol

WillCookForSex
6
5 days ago

Why are they watching 800+ hours of tv a year?

chapterpt
5
5 days ago

Those commercials taught childhood me to be patient.

marxismiscancer69
5
5 days ago

What the fuck is this r/hailcorporate bullshit. Literally a Netflix ad

TheMusicCrusader
5
5 days ago
tokinaznjew
4
5 days ago

I smell advertising

MJZMan
6
5 days ago

"saved" Hyperbole much?

There's actual value in letting your children see advertising, and that's so they can learn to recognize when they're being advertised to, and that "too good to be true" claims generally are.

For example: One Christmas my daughter and nieces were all infatuated with the Fushigi Ball. It's one of those sleight of hand tricks that appears to be actual magic in it's advertising. So, of course, I bought them all one. Then, oh Christmas Day we got to have a nice lesson on why you trust advertisements as far as you can throw them. One of the better investments I've made.

Big-ol-Mcballs
3
5 days ago

Yes and no. When I was a kid, after school cartoons were only on from 3:30 until 5. Kids watch Netflix all damn day

cleaninginprogress
3
5 days ago

Put another way - kids watch WAY too much TV

louisbo12
3
5 days ago

HAHAHAH wtf the fuck is this title? wow thanks Netflix for saving my kids from those evil ads. Yet theyre still sat on their arses inside

Netflix circlejerk to the max

Edit: im embracing it

Mister_Kurtz
3
5 days ago

Your kids are watching a lot of Netflix.