EA later: So what I told you was true, from a certain point of view.
50 bucks is not a "micro" transactions after all :D #technicallyTrue
A premium Single-Player Jedi BattlePass.
Get access to BOTH sides of the story and see the true alternate ending to Fall Order
Sounds a lot like Fire Emblem Fates.
That shit was wack, at least the price for all three paths came out as 60€ which is standard for a game. Still sucked ass though
If you need DLCs to understand the full plot, something is seriously wrong.
Nothing was DLC, though. It was like every Pokemon game ever, except this time it was actually worth buying the different games. The writing could have been better, but the concept wasn't bad.
Seriously. I was annoyed about it at first, but they really were two very different games with two very different styles of play and levels of difficulty depending on which one you play. Of course it would have been nice to get both sides for the price of a single game, but by the time I finished, I wasn't really mad about it after the sheer number of hours of fun I had.
They already have a pre-order exclusive "directors cut edition".
It sounds like it’s mostly or even all cosmetic and it’s part of the $10 more deluxe edition. Pretty standard for games now (but I still don’t trust EA)
Yeah, that'd be a different can of worms, for sure.
I guess I'll wait and see - either way, I'll probably be playing the game, since it's a Singleplayer SW action/adventure game, and I've been waiting for another one of those for a very long time.
I guess the "en" costs extra?
That will be in the 80 dollars season pass which will include 1 hat and 1 emblem
that would actually be a nice DLC... I think it's more likely to be "purchase ancient sith weapons pack, and get the special cortosis blade for 7.99 only". The Mandalorian© celebration package timed deal : 14.99 for the mandalorian steel Armor.
What about the Summer Order? Or the Spring and Winter Order?
Do you guys not have phones?
Make it a reskin of some Chinese mobile game and you’ve got yourself a deal
It's micro dlcs! You want force choke? Pay 50$!
Jedi Mind Tricks? $25
single use one : 3 bucks
Midiclorians, on sale $0.99/each.
Anakin Skywalk/Darth Vader (27,000)
Anakin Skywalk/Darth Vader (27,000)
time to get a small loan
Thought Bomb? $199
Level 2? $90 season pass exclusive.
Macro Transactions and Loot Containers
And no, it’s not a loot box, it’s a sphere!
Were going from micro transactions macro transactions!
It'd be real nice if that were true.
Macro Transactions then?
I have altered the deal...
Pray that I do not alter it further.
*Pay that I do not alter it further.
The deal can be whatever I want.
The deal is often disappointing
...You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.
it’s all true. from a certain point of view.
That was, that's awful
Well. From a certain point of view.
From a certain point of view?!
YIIIAAAAOOO! SURPRISE LIGHTSABA!
I am altering the deal pray I do not alter it any further.
"A few months ago I told the American people I d̶i̶d̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶t̶r̶a̶d̶e̶ ̶a̶r̶m̶s̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶h̶o̶s̶t̶a̶g̶e̶s̶ would not put microtransations in the game.
My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not."
I don't trust them, but I do trust Respawn.
If they make it an epic exclusive, they can still argue they didnt lie about the micro transaction. Oof
Their second tweet is literally "Trust no one."
Its not a story CDProjektRed would tell you...
From my point of view, not putting in microtransactions is evil.
Well then you are lost!
In my opinion, the customers are wrong!
”Technically ’WE’ referred to the social media team. It was not added by us!”
Ea: "From my point of view it's the customers who are evil"
We said that there would be no loot boxes; we did not comment on the possibility of card packs.
So expansion packs?
I'm thinking more along the lines of $100 skins. Because it's more expensive that means it's more cool and people will feel more pride and accomplishment for unlocking it.
Hypebeasts in games now? 🙄
Its been going for years in csgo, tf2, dota, etc...
Gun skins is one thing. I meant character skins
Both tf2 and dota have cosmetics for character customization.
But in all valve free games everything game/ balance wise is free to use from start. Every hero with out limitations and every game mode for FREE.
True, I was just talking about people spending thousands on looking cool.
Last time I went on PUBG they had a $20 skin that was Jared Leto as joker, are you thinking something like that?
Path of Exile has very expensive skins, but its ethical because the game is totally free, and cash shop is just cosmetic.
Except stash space, that is a huge QoL upgrade.
Yes, but we're glad they have it. 4 tabs is fine for casual play but the way i see it if you're looking to get an extra tab bundle / currency/maps tabs you've played your free demo and now it's time to pony up amd support the devs, buy your full version.
Yea, but they are actually pretty generous with that too. 4 tabs by default, and you can have a second account to mule more. If you also use the what 22 character slots for each account as extra space, it adds up.
Plus its just a convienance thing anyways.
Is it because famous celebrity takes existing sneaker model, repaints it and makes it limited ed that usually warrants a +$150 price tag?
Can't wait to get my Supreme Jedi robes.
You joke but League legit has $35 skins
Then again, it's a F2P game and Riot puts a lot of work into their Ultimate skins
Don't forget the meta skins for buying 100 $100 skins
So Path of Exile now?
Disclaimer: I've dropped so much coin on that game and still love it.
Light corellian freighter of smuggled content.
Base game: free to play, intro
DLC1: $59, mission 1
DLC2: $59, mission 2
Ah yes, the Hitman model.
And for only $59 extra you can preorder the special edition and get free equipment that makes any progression in the game a joke.
Lol basically a demo
I think those are called sequels.
Yea, just like the guy who commented earlier... It is gonna be Macrotransaction.
They could do that, but mega is 1012 times more transaction, and that means 1012 times more money, and more money is always better than less money.
Jezuz man.. you do the math :DD. Either way, I won't fall to their shady practices. I had enough anyway, I'll give it a month or two and decide will it be worth the buy.
...which is called a game.
I think you need more jiggle physics to pull those off tho.
hol the fuck up chief
Now for the first time ever... Lightsaber combat.
They are up to something...
Probably the classic "too short a campaign continued in the DLC" bullshit.
That's almost a certainty. We can only hope that either Respawn was given the project's entire reins or that EA has learned from their multiple, avoidable mistakes.
Their mistakes yield a lot of cash... I am a star wars fan, I saw dozens of casual that bought playstations or xbox just to play the first battlefront. Ho they liked it for a few days and then forgot about it, till the second one came around and they bought it just the same.
This is the big bulk of the market. People that actually don't really play those games, and therefore don't really care so much about those predatory schemes because they aren't informed the slightest.
Yeah but those players aren't where they make their money. They are looking for consistent players who continue to play or stream for months and continue to buy loot boxes. Even with a single player game they are going to want consistent players for dlc additions. Hopefully they don't fuck around with the dlc and make them necessary to finish the game.
Edit: why the down votes. The money doensnt come from people who buy the game and play for 5 hours. They don't want players like that. They want consistency and streamers to build a fanbases that likes buying skins and lootboxes.
Whales are a fraction of the player base, always have been.
Also the "casuals" are more prone to buying premium shit. When you are not as much invested in the media as us, you are more prone to such mistakes.
It's like people that do a bit of work at home, and buy a 500 dollars drill, because they think it's the best, and use it 3 times.
I can't possibly account for all customers behaviors of course, but I have a lot of star wars fans on social medias, I can assure you that those peope bought DLC's. They didn't play much, but they bought them.
Yeah but whales are called that for a reason. They keep the game floating financially. Some casuals (very few) will put in a decent chunk but most will drop it after a few days like you said. Some will keep with it and spend 5 bucks on microtransactions. The whales and streamers spend thousands and those are the consistent players that EA is looking for. They don't want people to buy the game and give up after a week. They want the streamers to say it is an awesome game and start unpacking lootboxes. They want the 12 year olds who watch the streamers to think the lootboxes look really cool and the game looks fun. They want those 12 year olds to play for a year and use mommy's credit cars to buy 20 lootboxes. They want that guy who sits in his basement trying to get that one ultra rare piece of loot. They don't want casuals. They want people who have a lot of time and money to burn on the game. This streamers are huge because they have a lot of time and money to devote to games and they have a following who will pretty much follow them anywhere.
Honestly I feel like following a PDX style of supporting their games could yield them some goodwill and some serious cash flow.
Release a single/multi player game. Every quarter or half, release a small expansion alongside free content, and maybe a few small cosmetic packs. Continue until the sales aren’t giving you the profit margin that you think a new game would.
So for example sake:
Say they release a completely redone version of the OT mass effect trilogy, with the best systems from the OT and andromeda, and a multiplayer mode (instead of the horde mode, I’d do like ‘N7 missions’ similar to the ME3 side stuff akin to maybe siege mode from JKII).
Every quarter/half, release a single player tie-in that integrates directly into the base game if you have it, along side a few multiplayer missions/classes/etc. expand the story and give MP missions that tie into the new story beats. Then have some cosmetic skins that you can also get for $, and a free content update that makes small tweaks to the experience for everyone even if you don’t pay (so maybe non-paying players get two new small sub quests that would intro you to the new content but don’t have the payoff but still make story sense without the dlc, some new weapons and powers integrated into the base game, etc.).
It gives old player a better reason to return and revisit the game, gives them a nudge into new content they can pay for, and keeps the game more active and in the public sphere for longer, so that when you’ve got the next chapter fleshed out and ready to go...
I am not going to reply to this whole comment but I agree with you 100% you have hit the nail pretty much directly on the head. The single player market isn't dead and was needs some good will badly.
And if this game is anything like other Respawn titles, everyone will praise them and then nobody will buy them until those steep, steep discounts are in effect.
The sales for Titanfall 2 is just straight up depressing. One of the best multiplayer games with one of THE BEST first person shooter campaigns I've ever played. It's right up there with the likes of Half Life 2.
Naturally...no one bought it 🙄
Good to seem them get deserved recognition with Apex at least. Can't tell you how excited I am for their Star Wars game. If they put the same level of quality into that, it's going to be the best Star Wars game in uhhh....wait how long has EA had the SW franchise?
The campaign is great but it isn't one of the best. Its just been a LONG time between good fps campaigns.
In the past 5 years weve had like 4 games that met that requirement. So it seems amazing but imo its more due to the fact that a good fps campaign has become the gaming industry version of a good horror film, rare, but oh soo satisfying.
I don't disagree with that.
Over the past 5 years we have had about 4 non open world single player games/campaigns in general, the fact an FPS had a campaign automatically makes it one of the greats of the gen
Any of those FPS games that you recommend?
I didn't buy it because I've learned my lesson from buying EA games and don't want to be nickel and dime every time I think I'm buying a full game.
Respawn basically snuck Apex under EA's radar and released it how and when they wanted to. One can hope they pulled similar shenanigans with their Star Wars title, giving EA as little oversight as possible. I guess we'll see on release, which is fairly soon, so I'm hopeful.
There are no plans for a DLC right now, c9nfirmed by u/f8rge on Twitter. Maybe it was u/ea_charlemagne
Well Respawn gave ea 50 million aoex legends players. That's tons of fucking money. Pretty sure EA trusts then now.
https://imgur.com/a/YZow6AM they’ve said no DLC
Something is really up and it is freaking me out. EA game, with no Microtransactions, no multiplayer, and no DLC? Either the Grinch's heart grew three sizes this Christmas or EA invented something that would make us beg for lootboxes.
You beat it in 3 hours, 1 hour of which is cutscenes.
I’m getting flash backs to the force unleashed 2
Why make more levels when you can just make every level take an hour?
Except for Dagobah, that's just a cutscene.
Or maybe when respawn started the project they weren't owned by EA and as a result have true control of the game, like how apex legends was started when respawn were still independent.
They couldn't have started it before as EA has the rights to the IP.
Ea awarded respawn the rights to make the game pre takeover, everyone in the titanfall community knows this, it is documented. Respawn started development pre takeover.
That wouldn't bring in any cash after buying it
thats a straight up lie because the deluxe edition preorder page talks about cosmetic dlc you get for getting the deluxe edition
“Technically it’s not dlc if it’s already on the disk, just locked away!”
No they haven't.
No plans. We want to release a strong, self contained story.
If they release an unfulfilling story that takes 3 DLCs at 20£ a pop to truly finish, they've kept every promise in this tweet. Weasel words 101.
And you believe them?
I never said I did
yeah dlc everything.
i'm 99% sure that's what's going on here.
Whatever i just hope ea doesnt screw this up it could be great
Honestly, I'm ok with a Titanfall 2 length campaign with expansions of Wolfenstein: Old Blood length for $20 a pop.
EDIT: Three short expansions that give me a full and amazing story are $120 (60+20+20+20) well spent for me.
Assassin Creed Odyssey has a long campaign into the DLC bullshit and people complain that the game is too long and the world is too big.
Let's face it, we will criticize anything they will do.
Let's face it, we will criticize anything they will do.
Because companies keep going into this with the mindset of "How do we separate as much cash from our customers as possible" rather than "How do we provide a compelling experience to keep our customers coming back for more"
Both make money, but in two different ways. When companies return to the latter, they will find us to be far more amenable.
Multiple season pass... It called a "season" pass for a reason after all.
"I've got a bad feeling about this"? :-D
EA just needs one good game to put them back in publics good side. Then they can peddle another 5 years of garbage again.
They have a new face that people love, so they are going to wear it around everywhere. Their old face that everyone loved, Bioware, is starting to get a little ratty.
Maybe.... Just maybe..... This is the game they'll use to try to get everyone back
Maybe this one will actually be worth it, and they'll use it to lure people into a sense of calm about EA
Maybe I buy this game and then never buy another EA game again.... Assuming it's worth it
This is guaranteed. Nowadays game studios, specially AAA ones, have this set idea that $60 isn't enough to fund a game. So they NEED a monetization plan to milk every possible cent from whales.
drop the monetization plan, charge $75, and take a big step towards permanently breaking the $60 ceiling
I mean games have been $60 for 2 decades. That’s $90 in 2019 dollars. If you wanna pay $90 for every new AAA release be my guest.
I am wondering if Disney stepped in and set some limitations. I mean, it's pretty clear that a portion of the Star Wars fan base does not like EA and don't like the fact that they have the license.
I don't think Disney was too happy about the battlefront fiasco
maybe this is a play to break out of the "games cost $60" chains holding them and every other game designer down for a while now. make it something like $75 just to get their foot in the door
I wonder how they don't feel any kind of shame for the needing to point out that there will not be transactions AND that they wont add these later...
big if true
puts on tinfoil hatWhat if it’s a full game, no one buys it expecting EA to pull some shit and then EA execs just go ‘See! It’s not a sustainable business model. We have to do micro transactions and free to play! ‘
What does it take for EA to clear their name? Battlefront 2 removed non-cosmetic microtransactions. Meanwhile Activision-Blizzard has the worst schemes of any publisher and slide right on by idgi. At least EA is trying to please gamers
Sure, it's singleplayer. It's not like anyone brags about what armor they have in Skyrim, because there's no social incentive to outdo the Joneses in single player.
Yeah, they're going to release one chapter of the game for $60 and then make you pay for the additional parts.
Or worse! They could make a full game like GTA V and people will spend years bitching and complaining they never got any DLC to play!!
one can only dream of a star wars game like gta v
Just waiting for the day I can splatter droids on Couresant with a speeder. Or buy some death sticks from that one guy
Imagine the Ps2 bounty hunter game based in a 4th gen world.
such a great game
Had that for GameCube. Such an underrated game. The really nailed the feeling of being bad ass Jango Fett
Looking at a crowd of aliens and using the scanner to pick out a wanted man was so cool. I hope someday that game gets a sequel or a remaster. There was definitely room for that concept to grow.
Chasing a dude down and using the string to tie him up felt so good.
And then you set him on fire. Because sometimes at the end of the day, some things are just better than money.
Didn't you hear? That guy stopped selling. Turns out he was in a bar one night and decided to just go home and rethink his life.
You want Steve now, here l give you his number..
did you suddenly become Russian in the last part of your comment?
You don't wanna buy any deathsticks
Two words: Star Citizen.
I would kill all the younglings in the temple for a remastered Star Wars Bounty Hunter that plays like GTA.
What else would be better than walking into a strip club, using the force to rip the pole out, and start beating people around with it
Trevor as Darth Vader
That would be the best selling game of all time. Don’t @ me.
Imagine cruising around stealing spacecraft, flying to other planets, with intergalactic police force right on your tail!
People weren't complaining about the lack of DLC, they were complaining about being told DLC was coming, the actors were recording for it, then multiplayer comes along and then there is no more DLC.
Especially when past DLC was so good: Undead Nightmare, Lost and the Damned, and Ballad of Gay Tony. Who wouldn't have been excited to see what they were going to do with GTAV DLC?
Hey now, we got that awesome DLC where you randomly run into someone and usually have to drive somewhere lol
For an additional $59.999. That’s right! EA is introducing the millie. A penny, but 1/10 the value.
Gas stations have been doing that for decades.
You know what? If the base game is 6hrs, the dlcs are 3 hours, and both are great, I'm 100% fine with it. RE2 is something like 4 hours and a half
if the story is linear and there's not much else to do outside of it then I am happy with the game taking ~6 hours or more. Less than that I don't really see a "AAA" game being able to claim a $60 price tag.
6 hours is basically the sweet spot you can see with many single player story games, The Last of Us, God of War, Uncharted Series, Horizon Zero Dawn, and many others recently - all those you cna expect Around 6 hours of play out of if you're rushing the story.
Red Dead can be quick sure but ... there's so much more Outside of the story you can do.
Yeah, if the gameplay/story is worth the price then people (probably) won't bitch about it.
Damn that sounds similar 🤔
On a side note I can't not laugh at the tagline "trust no one" because I keep thinking of the meme, trust no one not even yourself.
Really can’t tell the if I’m on pcmr or gamingcirclejerk anymore
How can you say something so controversial yet so brave?
But what about Geraldo?
How could I forget, praise Geraldo!
It's honestly getting ridiculous lmao
[Insert meme of Pam from The Office staring at two pictures.]
"Corporate needs you to find the difference between this picture and this picture."
"They're the same picture."
Lets be honest, PCMR and Gaming always manage to outjerk GCJ
... Those fuckers are up to something
There is already a preorder bonus (edit: hold on thats wrong it isnt a pre order bonus they are selling 2 different versions! My bad for confusing this.) in the more expensive edition, some cosmetics afaik, so there is already a microtransaction.
Edit: I dont want to answer you all but in my opinion it is a microtransaction, again you wont get the full game more or less because they cut out a tiny bit (cosmetic, which is usually an mtx) and selling it for 10€ more.
They are even unable to sell one single product without any bullshit.
That's not a micro transaction though. That's a reward the company offered to entice people to buy the game early. There's only one transaction even though there's two payments. It's like giving out a discount for early payment.
Edit: I was saying a pre-order bonus is not a microtransaction which was what his post said before the edit.
Is this preorder bonus available to the regular priced package ?
If not that's an extra, which makes it a microtransaction really... although "micro" is debatable at 10 or 20 euros for a skin a a few stupid useless things.
Charging more for a premium product is not a micro transaction. I don't like collectors editions and pre-order bonuses but that doesn't make them a micro transaction.
I made a mistake it isnt a preorder bonus, they are selling two different versions, my bad I fixed it.
So why not just do that? Both are the full game but the preorder is $5 less.
Pre-order bonuses have existed for a very long time
Edit: I dont want to answer you all but in my opinion it is a microtransaction, again you wont get the full game more or less because they cut out a tiny bit (cosmetic, which is usually an mtx) and selling it for 10€ more.
No it's not, its a pre-order bonus.
Until the game releases and for a few months after until people move on to the next reason to be outraged PCMR (and all other gaming subreddits) might as well just be another circlejerk subreddit cause it's going to be hard to tell the difference.
To be completely fair, this type of practice is an old one and rather accepted in many other industries. Remember the director's cut of DVDs? You pay $5 more and get some fun extra content. While I personally am not a fan of this as a pre-order (this is where it differs from movies as the initial release is all the same content), it's not an extension of the microtransactions model.
Literally almost every fucking company has done this but EA bad I guess.
Just want to chime in and say that I completely agree about a pre-order bonus being a microtransaction. Same shit, different phrasing.
Source for this, please? I'd like to kill this tiny sliver of hype and hope that I currently have.
EA bad, CDPR good
Anyone smell DLC?
From years away
The game comes out in November so if there's dlc it would drop Early-Mid 2020
2004 wants you back. DLC's are day one nowadays.
Imagine saying this unironically lol
From a Galaxy far away
Yeah, because every game has the stench of DLC on it but EA bad.
Can't wait for people to suck CDPR's dick over Cyberpunk 2077 pre-order bonuses and DLC.
Ok so now DLC is frowned upon by reddit? Y’all realize shit costs money, right? Witcher sold DLC, DS sold DLC, and about a million other games sell DLC.
Yes, but EA bad.
Seriously though, the issue isn't with the concept of DLC but rather the conviction that DLC will be terrible and overpriced. Or that the initial story will be ridiculously short with the aim of selling said terrible DLC.
I'm over here fucking dying for some DLC for RE2, DMCV and Sekiro. Hell If the base game is good, I'm not gonna bitch about more content. Take my money, you more than earned it.
I'll repost this again tomorrow
Alright so if I were an corporate executive looking to make the must money out of this, I would design the game to have a technically complete story, and then sell dozens of "mini DLC" that contain more adventures, other characters to play, maybe some skins or lightsaber colors.
"buy the Jedi Temple Ruins DLC with 5 new levels, and unlock a purple lightsaber,"
"Buy the Legacy of Skywalker DLC to explore the ruins of [semi significant place] and preorder to unlock Anakin's lightsaber"
"Buy Ghosts of Tatooine, and PLAY AS Obi-wan, Featuring a band now sandbox, preorder now to unlock Darth Mauls lightsaber"
"Buy the Bounty Hunter story pack which adds extra missions to the main campaign including Cameos from your favorite Star wars bounty hunters. preorder now to unlock a Mandalorian Cape."
"preorder the preorder of your preorder to unlock something that would have been a cool extra 7 years ago but we realised we can charge money for and you will buy it because it says star wars on it! SPEND YOUR MONEY ON STAR WARS YOU WHALE!"
This is legit, the way it has been working on PC and most major console releases for decades.
Exactly, have expansion packs ever really been as controversial?
“I have to PAY for extra content now??? WTF?!”
who said it was extra, turns out development on the first few DLC was at the same time as the regular game. and those skins were free in game or given as standard customization options 10 years as go.
Ten years ago, games were the same cost they are today.
Twenty years ago, games were the same cost they are today.
Thirty years ago, games were the same cost they are today.
Gamers, rising up: Games are too expensive, even though they don't keep up with inflation
fair but irrelevant, if games need to cost more to keep up with inflation then they should raise the price, not try and attach leaches to my skin to bleed me of all my money. especially if they do that with fucking gambling.
Are you trying to tell me people are as comfortable with paying 80-100 dollars for a game as they are with paying 60?
I think mtx only for cosmetics is the best way to keep the cost of games low. You are never forced to buy them, but if you want you character to look cool or just to support the devs you can choose to pay more.
in a larger AAA studio, your money isn't going to support the dev's it just goes the lining shareholders pockets.
Sure, I should have used the studio as an example. The game studio that made the game will get most of it. Sure, some of it will go to shareholders, but that really isn't a big chunk of the money.
personally as long as I'm enjoying the game I'll give the game more of my money. I just don't like feeling like I'm being extorted. Pre-orders for digital goods, Loot boxes that prey on gambling, Skinner boxes designed to make me want to spend more money that's what bothers me.
Yeah, that's why I was very careful with the way I worded my position. As long as it doesn't impact gameplay and you're not forced to buy lootboxes they are the best way to further monetize games that would otherwise have to be sold for around 80 dollars.
last I checked microtransactions and loot boxes are optional. If you don't wan't them leeching, don't give them money. problem solved!
they are video games, playing them at all is optional. you can say "just dont buy them" all you want but that doesn't stop them being predatory, especially to problem gamblers, or children.
micro transactions effect gameplay, they slow the game down to get you to buy them. or they give you access to special content in their better examples.
Right, and thirty years ago, how big was the gaming market? A tiny fraction of what it is now. The video game industry is bigger than the movie and music industry combined (in the UK at least). So sure, 100,000 copies of a AAA sold in 1983 would be amazing, now some individual games are making a Billion on the day of release. The price of games Janet changed but the scale of the industry is completely different.
You know your business model is shady when your whole marketing strategy is built on reminding people you WON'T do what you normally do.
Yeah it's pretty sad that their tagline is "This won't be like our other products... and no that's not a trick!"
How many people in the EA Bad, no preorders! crew are gonna preorder this with a flimsy justification?
Perhaps the intent is to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment for purchasing the story bit by bit?
no lootboxes, no microtransactions. announcing it like its a selling point. it should just be the fucking norm, you asshats.
I feel like by using the lack of microtransactions as a selling point EA are admitting that they know microtransactions are shitty and unpopular. Yet they still use them in most of their other games.
They definitely know micro transactions are shitty and unpopular after the BF2 debacle. But they don't need to be popular for whales to buy them by the thousands and line their pockets anyways. They don't need the average gamer, they just need to pull addicts away from slot machines for a few hours a day to play their games.
I think they at least fully grasp that they are seen as shitty and unpopular by the demographic that heavily favors single-player games. So they want this game to capture that audience, and think microtransactions are just fine for the "non-hardcore gamers who like multiplayer and fun"
I’m okay with DLC like adding to the campaign and such. As long as I’m getting my money’s worth. I’m not okay with pay to win or loot boxes and such.
I already don’t trust them
Edit: Epic also bad but Steam Berry good
How many times y'all gonna post this same meme? This sub is turning into the gaming sub real quick.
they said that about Battlefield V, look where it ended up
No lootboxes guys. They are loot crates. Totally different
Screenshot of tweet, quote, or anything. Just for confirmation
Fucking EA. I wonder what kind of trick they are going to pull with this one.
Loot droids or someshit
The fucking paranoia lol
Trust no one, not even yourself.
EA BAD AMMIRITE GUYS :D
Considering EA has Origin and hasn't been publishing games to Steam for quite some time, and Origin is very likely Epic's biggest competitor next to Steam, I'd say it's pretty unlikely Epic tried to offer them anything.
I love seeing those complaints because it outs the complainers as total morons. I should get RES and start tagging folks.
Ubisoft switched Steam to Epic, but EA only sells on Origin on PC
You're right, I forgot they ditched Steam.
If given no choice they all go to Origin.
Epic? you know thats the wrong company right?
All jokes aside, yes, I am skeptical about it but I really hope it’s a game similar to Star Wars: The Force Unleashed. Plus I can’t see how they are going to put loot boxes in a single player game.
EA ... No micro transaction not now not ever.
EA... We are just gonna charge $60 for every expansion and have useless special features for the ultimate dark side edition that will cost $130 for no reason muahahahahh.
Build an army. Trust no one.
Fire Emblem--only on Gameboy Advance.
NO ONE PREORDER
You guys complain about the lack of single player games and then when you get one you sook about it im glad this won’t be on steam
Do. Not. Pre-order. This.
Trust no one... Trust me
trust no one, not even no one...
We live in a world where not having microtransactions and lootboxes is considered a feature or worth noting in your marketing.
Hope they don't ruin it like ps4 bf2. That was garbage. Ps2 battlefront was perfect.
Battlefield 5 had no microtransactions and peole hated it due to lack of content.
Stfu and let them do the right thing. Give them a break.
Don’t. Trust. EA.
"I've got a bad feeling about this."
Trust no one, not even Ea. I'm not pre ordering only to disappointed again
Trust no one even us lol
Way ahead of you on that one EA.
It’s gonna finna be on epic I bet
EA is Little Finger
I'm enraged that not doing a bad thing to a game is the marketing stunt they are trying to use. That's not acceptable at all.
Finally, a Star Wars game about becoming a Jedi.
EA giving some fuckin mixed signals rn.
How did we get in a point where we celebrated this? isn't this should be the standard?
Can you get more ominous than that?
This creates a paradox because we cant trust their advice to trust no one
still scared xD
But I can trust myself, right?
Trust no One who repost
Does this mean we shouldn't trust EA also?
Edit: I can imagine when the game flops devs will say "we told you to trust no one!"
Does this mean we shouldn't trust EA also?
Well what have they ever done to make you think you should? Exactly.
But Day 1 DLCs and SeasonPass.
Caveat: Online only subscription required. Released as a shallow puddle. To the GAAS chamber with you!
That long ass hashtag will never take off. Maybe if it was just “Fallen Order.”
You that damn right
Its so sad knowing if EA had listened to their customers instead of their wallets they probably wouldve made 10 fold(exaggerating of course) because they woulda kept the trust of their customer base
I know this is meant to be a meme but damn why is a business’s approach to making money so ass backwards
this quarter's profits > literally everything, even the next quarter's profits
lol their next tweet should be, "sorry we got hacked. YES micro transactions! YES loot boxes!"
It's ridiculous that those are now selling points for modern video games nowadays.
I love democracy
only a sith deals in absolutes
I sense a plot to rip off the jedi.
insert the ironic palpatine meme here
This is a very surreal post because EA is basically shitting on it's own reputation.
"No microtransactions. No lootboxes. NONE OF OUR INTERJECTION" is basically how I read the last portion of that.
Wow, a single player game and they won't have any loot boxes or micro transactions? How ground breaking /s
Isn't that a thing that is almost exclusive to the multiplayer market anyway. Why would we even expect to have any of that in a single player game by default.
It's sad that this is now a selling point. Just stop doing it and we can all move on. But we know you can't promise that
It's a SINGLE-PLAYER game, historically these games never had micro-transactions, it's ridiculous that they are using that claim to advertise the game.
It's not ridiculous because that is their reputation and they know it, it's not a bad thing to try and reverse how people think about your company, I mean it's still EA and most people aren't going to change their mind but their social media team is still going to try.
Looks like somebody did a big policy change
Remember, no Pre-Orders.
Dlc for more campaign levels
Including you EA
Especially not EA.
Really sucks ea still had the right to Star Wars. Was hoping this game would actually be good.
Trust no one. except EA of course
Believe it when I see it. Can only hope it's the truth.
Let's say they stay true to their tweet, they will probably make main story missions that should be in the game into dlc content that costs an extra $20.
It's funny how saying "no microtransactions" is now a common marketing strategy
This is proper /r/suicidebywords
Story will be told over 4 dlcs calling it now
maybe EA thought of a new way - maybe instead of DLC - you have to subscribe to the service to enjoy the content.
You activated my trap card!
Draws £40 DLC expansion pack
We told you to trust no one. Now enjoy metatransactions™
But im not ready for a singleplayer story to be a jedi. Im ready for a singleplayer story to be a sith
EA: It wont have micro transactions, we promise.
EA: Epic exclusive for 18 months. Still no micro transaction though.
They forgot about one thing and that is that it will not be on EPIC store.
EA you have failed me for the last time.
Ea is so freaking tone deaf.
So is nobody going to care that Respawn have confirmed no DLCs? Or should we just continue the anti-EA circlejerk?
EA bragging about this makes me sick.
Still won‘t preorder and not buying until I get to read some test reviews about this game. Trust no one
Gamers : that wasn't part of the deal, you said there would be no micro transactions.
EA: I am altering the deal, pray I don't alter it further.
Don't trust Publishers like EA
It's respawn. You can trust respawn.
I sure as fuck don't trust EA.
I think they've learned a thing or two as new tools to fool people. You see.. it is a no stranger to us that the successful marketing strategies of Cyberpunk 2077 is based on consumer's trust.
That being said, I see EA sounds more like CDPR regarding of their new tweets here. Still... I won't fall to this shit, and no way I will pre-order or pre-purchase or other gimmick shits they're gonna throw at me to buy their products. Give it a solid one-month period and we'll see that you don't have any bad intentions and try to fool us.
"trust no one" yea certainly not fuckin you EA
When the twitter account employee grows a conscience and tries to send us a message
Oh fuck it, no, really
EA on release day: holds a dagger to your throat
EA: "I did warn you not to trust me"
I already trust no one. So I don't trust you telling me all this while you are under EA's grimy paws
You guys will just fall into some trap I swear.
Not even EA
“Introducing new features, we call them ‘Force-transactions’ and ‘Jedi Crates’!” ~EA
I like how EA talks as if they developed the game and wanted this.
Guranteeeeee you, people will be complaining of not enough content, challenges and skins.
Lmao who believes this shit? Sony said H1Z1 wouldn't have MTX but they were added before the game was finished. How many developers said their game wouldn't have denuvo but somehow denuvo magically added itself to the game before it was released? And if I remember correctly, the steam store page for one of Square Enix's games didn't mention it would include denuvo until the game was released.
I'm gonna stay optimistic about this and hope that this is made with redemption in mind. Making it free from all that bullshit and if they release DLC that it will be fairly priced and with good content.
After all the shit that happened I just want to believe they got their head out of their asses and want to improve their standing on the market (especially seeing how so many other companies there are to hate right now, doing something good would make people even more happy). The good PR could also help bump their stock price up again.
I just so badly want to believe that this will be a good game without all the bullshit for once.
Don't buy EA games. Ty
it's literally that easy
EA BAD!! CDPR GOOD! PRAISE GERALDO!!!
I'm not going to pre order, because I just don't as a rule, but if I were to pre order, I'd consider it for a handful of studios, and Respawn is one of them. Yes, they're owned by EA now, and I get the EA bad circle jerk. But Respawn has a great track record, and has a history of sneaking around EA and giving them minimal oversight of their projects.
Nah fuck you EA, I'm not gonna buy another game from you. You screwed us over in the past and you will do it again, I just don't trust you anymore and I want your company and Activision to go bankrupt.
Thiis game is gunna cost $200.
“ I have altered our deal, pray I don’t alter it any further”
If this is the case I'll buy the game at 80$
I mean, to be perfectly honest I'm not opposed to microtransactions in single player games.
Fallout shelter had them and they didn't cause the regular issues they bring since it wasn't multiplayer. According to GameSpot they even brought in 90 million.
You guys are such children. Stop whining and making assumptions about a game you know literally nothing about. And I’m not talking about OP because it is a funny screenshot I’m talking about the idiots in the comments section.
This is nothing new, battlefront 2 was a single player star wars game too.
It was kind of short but for 5 dollars what do you expect.
Won’t be like Knights if the Old Republic unfortunately
They created this problem in the first place and are acting like saints for not continuing it. Supposedly not continuing it.
So sad that we've reached a point when 'no loot boxes and no micro transactions' is marketed as a selling point for a game.
Except for us.
"do you want to buy the ability to play the game?"
Yes. But actually no
EA said nothing about DLCs, though...
Its singleplayer... no need for ingame currency
Didnt say no dlc
It's a shame that a selling point is no microtransactions and lootboxes, shows how shameful the game industry has become.
I'm excited because this might be the next KOTOR, but after Anthem...
Sad when you have to throw shade at yourself in order to market your products....
I did warn you not to trust me
I’m not going to preorder or anything, but I’d believe it if they’re just trying to repair their reputation after the Battlefront 2 debacle (and everything else). Time will tell.
You are at the top of the dont trust list EA. Byeeee!
They never mention paid DLC or anything.
I just hope we get the full game on release.
- Sheev Palpatine
EA: no micro-transactions
Also EA: will create an entire menu for customisation just for pre order bonus
It's gonna be something new. First it was DLC, then it was Season passes, then it was MTX, then it was cosmetic MTX then it was the game pass. I bet this one is going to need some kind of content subscription.
"INTRODUCING THE SOLO PASS! Only $4.99 a month for the best single player experience! Pre-order now and receive the "Revived Han Solo" special ability! Its totally not MTX!!"
"Now available on your mobile app store"
How pathetic is the AAA gaming industry now that this is a sales point?
I AM ALTERING THE DEAL, PRAY THAT I DO NOT ALTER IT ANY FURTHER
Its made by respawn not ea. I believe it.
REEEEEE EA BAD WAKE UP SHEEPLE
EA has actually just been teaching us about the harsh realities of life all these years so that we won't get scammed by people who are only out for money. Nothing but pure intentions.
Ea releases micro transactions
Ea: lol I told to trust no one
Oh look a joke I’ve seen for the 14 millionth time in the past two years
Does DLC count as microtransactions?
You can trust plenty of people, just not EA.
.. Major news media and a wet fart in light colored pants
So 3 things lol
Is this going to be like Tarkov where the game is essentially $160 to fully enjoy the game?
In the words of the great Dunkey - “it’s EA, they’ll find some way to fuck it up.”
This is obvious social media bait to spread awareness of the game and you all ate the worm.
Yeah, for this one game that they can’t monetise. They will still fuck you in the ass from all their other gaming properties like FIFA, Battlefield etc
I think I'll just wait a good 3~5 years for Humble Monthly to give it to me.
By then the DLCs should be out and hopefully it'll be on Steam.
Still haven't touched Destiny or AC:O though.
Haven't been keeping up with the news surrounding this. Are people falling for it?
Thanks for this brave post epic gamer!! Keep fighting the good fight for us!
Does "no one" include them? Cause I still doubt this game is being made at all.
unga bunga EA bad
There should be a public campaign against pre-orders.
To be fair, you gotta be an idiot to get hyped by an EA game that it is not even released nowadays
Is this game worth looking into for purchase? I miss the old batttlefront games with command points and battle games.
Not even yourself.
Let's say this is true. I can't believe it took them 2 failed games and a whole lot of internet backlash for them to finally make an actual Star Wars game.
After the Anthem production Article. I will never buy an EA Title day one. I'm a huge RPG, Bioware fan. But I will not buy Dragon Age or anything at release.
It is like the marketing team were trying to tell us something. Hmmm what could it be.
Or maybe they learned their lesson.
Oh boy the quality pc gaming content I subscribed for!!!
If only Reddit accepted the fact that 99% of game problems come from the developer and not the publisher maybe this insufferable circle jerk would end.
EA: 6 months later:
well yes, but actually no
Ok good no micro transactions. However, do not let your taste in games be diluted with what a game should be in actuality. Continue to judge a game for its content. Don’t call it good because it’s excluding something that shouldn’t have been there in the first place. Judge it as you would any other single player game. I hope EA does well and realizes that the key to a reoccurring audience beyond diehards is reoccurring quality releases.
Well if it's anything like The Force Awakens it's not worth $60 anyway.
Fuckin 5 hour game. Fuck that shit.
How much do you want to bet there’s gonna be like 10 “dlc stories” that’s just a continuation of the main story for $30 each
Just a simply dlc for the ending cut scene
Fool me once, twice, three times...never again. Ever. Fuck EA
Guys okay i get it EA isnt the best but can we just stop with this mindless circlejerk and just wait until the game comes out?
The intent is to provide players with a sense of pride and achievement...
X to doubt
They'll pull a Hitman and do episodic release - guarantee it.
Well yes but no
Wait...is Lord Baelish the CEO of EA?
EA: "Trust no one"
Gamers: Doesn't trust EA
Its pretty sad for the gaming industry to use no microtransactions as a selling point for a game.
I don’t think they thought this sequence through
EA has forever soiled their chances of me paying them for another game. I dont agree with what they have done and as a responsible consumer I have blacklisted them.
People are acting as if the only way EA fucks up games is with micro-transactions.
inb4 macro transactions.
Please buy the DLC to finish the game.
DAE EA bad?
I'm so confused. Did they just straight up lie to their customers, and then say "psych"?
Do. Not. Buy.
EA needs to lose the Star Wars license from Disney.
It is EA.
There is definitely something going on, anyone believing in their words are just fools, ya... there will not be loot boxes, just supply crates.
There will be no dlc, just alternative design costing money
There will be no mircotranscation just macrotranscation
Mark my words, even if it does turns out that they are right about all these at launch. Never forget Bf V when they added those in after reviews were out
The thing is, it's a single player game. I thought loot boxes were exclusively a multiplayer thing. So really EA isn't removing loot boxes, they just can't find a way to add them to a single player game.
Trust me: Trust no one.
Is this game coming to PC?