I got chills when they showed Hogwarts. I never expected to see it on film again, a surprise to be sure.
But a welcome one 😭😭😭
Love that magical place!! I'll never forget my first read through The Philosopher's Stone and being amazed at the inmensity of the school along with its secret spots.
Same. What a way to open. Immediate chills. I don't think I realized what a principal character Hogwarts is to the nostalgia of the books until now.
So great to see it but I thought you couldn't apparate into Hogwarts grounds?
Honestly am I the only who's read Hogwarts, A History?
My guess would be either the apparition boundary was extended to the grounds rather than just the castle sometime after the events of FB or didn’t exist at all yet. Cuz it’s that or they dun goofed and I sincerely hope Rowling doesn’t mess up something so integral to the HP series.
The headmaster has the ability to allow apparition in the grounds.
I'm so pumped! This was a great teaser and it was sooo good to see Hogwarts again!
I love having almost not background on the actual story, it feels like I can actually enjoy it, rather than pick apart things they missed.
Seeing all the comments replying to this i'm really bummed I saw this comment before the trailer started now haha. Like it wasn't a surprise to see it.
rookie error, my friend
Sunlight at Hogwarts!! Bright skies!! It feels like ages since we saw that.
Since before Harry Potter and The Lack of Color Because Shit Is Getting Really Serious
How else would we know??
My favorite book in the series, right after Harry Potter and the Portrait of What Looked Like a Large Pile of Ash.
Harry Potter and the Hogwarts Redesign
Sounds like I am back in high school over-analysing movies for film techniques.
God that is one of the worst Parts about the later movies. They just way over did it. You couldn't even fucking see anyting.
Harry Potter and the curse of David Yates
Can't believe it's been 17 years since we saw it for the first time at the theater!
Wow. I feel old as hell now.
Seeing Hogwarts made me so fucking happy! People who get excited when they see the Millennium Falcon, i get it now.
Now it made me realise that we might get to see beaubaxtons, as they're in France!!
I feel like that scene with the dancer was Beaubaxtons.
Especially considering Fleur's description of Beauxbaton's Chateau at Christmas:
‘At ze Palace of Beauxbatons, we 'ave ice sculptures all around ze Dining Chamber at Chreestmas. Zey do not melt, of course ... zey are like 'uge statues of diamond, glittering around ze place. And ze food is seemply superb. And we 'ave choirs of wood-nymphs, 'oo serenade us as we eat.
or maybe a veela
I can't wait to see this happens !!!
Beauxbatons isn't actually in France but in the mountains between Spain and France... from pottermore:
Thought to be situated somewhere in the Pyrenees, visitors speak of the breath-taking beauty of a chateau surrounded by formal gardens and lawns created out of the mountainous landscape by magic.
It's still France. Unless it's in Spain.
It would still be in France, though, given the French name and all. Just the Pyrenees part of France, near the Spanish border.
I still think it's located in the French side of the Pyrénées because "Beauxbatons" is a french word.
I didn't know this till now. Thanks.
It looked to me as if it was Thestrals...
Agreed, but that doesn't exclude seeing Beaubaxtons since the school is in France.
Yes, the carriage was a prison carriage led by thestrals. Then we see Grindelwald inside the carriage in a different shot.
This looks so much more colorful than the first film, and also more badass. Also it looks like Newt actually is a spy for Dumbledore. This trailer just raised my excitement a whole lot for this movie.
100% less colin farrell though :(
On the bright side, 100% more Jude Law.
I'm actually the one who originally came up with that "theory"...only it doesn't look like it's just a theory anymore...I'm still surprised that J.K. Rowling made an in-character reference as Newt Scamander in the new Fantastic Beasts textbook edition to that aspect...
I only have the old/original Fantastic Beasts textbook, and was momentarily very awed that JKR had made that backstory way-back-when, as well as being personally surprised I didn’t remember that foreword!
This trailer changed me to happy mood, can't wait for the release!
Seeing Hogwarts again made me tear up. Also, I guess Kowalski is back though I really liked him in the first one so I can't be upset
Jacob was my tear up moment.
I saw comments about hogwarts before it played so Jacob was my little squeal of excitement moment too.
There was a comment somewhere when the trailer for Fantastic Beasts released that I feel perfectly represents my feelings towards these movies.
You had me at Lumos.
Is it possible to return someone's removed memories?
Well, I thought the diluted venom only removed bad memories. Since he seemed to enjoy knowing about the wizarding world, some/most of his memories might still be intact.
Not from a Jedi.
now I need 30 minutes of breakdown video to tell me what to look for because I am too dumb to understand by myself.
also, damn I am so glad technology is evovled that much. thoose visual effects looks absouletly amazing.
Here you go! Play-by-play! https://www.pottermore.com/news/watch-the-first-trailer-for-fantastic-beasts-the-crimes-of-grindelwald
This deserves its own post!
I don't NEED 30 minutes of breakdown, I WANT it. Just in case I missed something.
The new beasts looked amazing.
I am quite certain the super carlin brothers will make one this week.
Edit: here it is
I'm really excited for the Dumbledore/Grindelwald story. I hope it doesn't feel too awkward having Newt be a part of that.
It's fantastic to see Hogwarts again, it'll be very interesting from an "adult" perspective.
I'm still not sold on Depp as Grindelwald, but I hope this movie changes my mind on that.
I thought Grindelwald in that carriage looked great. Super dangerous looking.
I though he just looked like menacing Johnny Depp, he's been samey in a lot of his recent roles. I hope he can pull it off though, even if I'd have preferred someone else for the role.
It does seem a bit like they are shoehorning Newt in there.
There were theories that he was working as Dumbledore's secret agent in the first first film so I imagine that'll be what his role is throughout.
Agree! I am not a fan of Depp in this role either.
Super excited but can someone please explain to me how they are apparating onto Hogwarts grounds, I thought this wasn’t possible? Or was this only implemented after Voldemort?
Best guess is things change. No one in the 20's walked through metal detectors with clear backpacks when entering school...
No one in the 20's walked through metal detectors with clear backpacks when entering school...
That's happening now in schools?
Fair point! Where I am from we still don’t have metal detectors in schools though :p
Although I am not 100% sure on this!
I think the Headmaster has control over who can/can't apparate on the grounds
Doesn't Dumbledore allow apparition in the hall for a set amount of time when students are being taught how to do it?
Absolutely. We can see it in book 6 with Dumbledore undoing the enchantments. Also remember in Hogwarts, A History that it talks about these spells. I'd assume the Headmaster let them apparate onto the grounds.
So I always got the impression that Dumbledore himself put that charm in place when he became headmaster. Remember, in the 6th book when Harry & Dumbledore charge back to Hogwards from Hogsmeade on brooms, he strips down the enchantments has he's flying. I would expect that he is the one who puts them up (or maybe Flitwick?). Moreover, I would bet that some of the events that we're about to see would very much speak to why that particular enchantment is needed.
Edit: As /u/theonlydjorkaeff1 pointed out - it was written about in Hogwarts: A History. I don't know much about that book, so it might very well be an older one, in which case this is a huge continuity problem and I probably won't watch this garbage movie :-P.
This is happening in the 20's so who knows.
The range of the apparation ban probably grew with Voldemort’s rise since he was operating in Britain. Grindewald is stated in GoF to never have had power there, so the ban being so long wasn’t as crucial. I don’t think those people in the opening were special exceptions because of their tone talking to Dumbledore. They seem more like foreign wizards coming to inquire about Newt after the fiasco in the first movie.
They are apparating onto the bridge, which I assume isn't part of the Grounds.
Damn, that was a good teaser! So good to finally see Hogwarts back!
"I can't move against Grindelwald, it has to be you."
No, Dumbledore. You are still struggling with your past. I really hope they will do Dumbledore's struggle with his past justice. It has to.
They’ve said there’s no overt homosexual stuff in this one. And while I don’t really have a horse in that race for its own sake, I do feel they’d be doing an outright disservice to the characters and previous story by leaving it out altogether. Fuck middle America, I wanna see Dumbledore be a young fool in love!
I wanna see Dumbledore be a young fool in love!
In the 1930s Dumbledore is in his 50s.
I personally hate all the anger over the lack of overt homosexuality. I don’t know if people just interpret the character differently, but I see Dumbledore as the chess master who has a hand in everything going on around him. I think of him being set on this past because of the guilt over his sister death. As a young adult he powerful, attractive, and fucking another hot, powerful guy. At that age he was irresponsible and hotheaded. I think it makes sense that with the death of his sister who was his responsibility, everything shifts, his entire perspective changes. I think that it would make sense for him to grow up, and turn into someone who works to teach and prop up the young, while enabling and advising those at war.
In my mind I think that after his sister died, Dumbledore put all thoughts of sex aside and assumed the position of teacher. It also seems right in my mind that Dumbledore doesn’t have any sexual relationship because he would be to busy being the teacher and the puppet master. In the books, prior to the last where his sins are revealed, Dumbledore is characterized as almost inhuman, and above all others, the only man Voldemort ever feared.
Personally, I hope the character Grindelwald does make references to their relationship, but I don’t think that Dumbledore’s sexuality should make any other appearances. Also if you think radical Christian Americans hate Harry Potter for a gay relationship that makes no appearances in the books, you’re forgetting that they would put down the books/movies for witchcraft first.
Poor Ariana :'(
Including this one, there are four films in which to discuss elements of Dumbledore's past. I think it's ultimately what the series is about.
I never thought I'd say this about Dumbledore but.... DAT ASS.
Get out of here, Grindelwald
Ikr? And here I am trying not to fangirl over Jude Law and failing miserably.
I usually fail when it comes to Jude Law...
I didn’t start crying when Hogwarts appeared, nope, no way, not me.
Who put this salty water in my eyes? This is weird.
I was surprised to get all teary-eyed at the end of the trailer. So I guess it worked for me. Jude Law as Dumbledore, fucking hell! Yes!
Yeah I was unsure about how I would feel seeing a young dumbledore but when I heard him talk I realized I can accept this!
0:10 - ~4-5 people apparate onto Hogwarts Bridge, I hear 4-5 Apparition noises
0:11 - Theseus and Leta? enter castle - the woman is wearing a different outfit than in the DADA scene
Fun tidbit, that giant white tower thing is in Dumbledore's office in GoF! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPgZJzQF1Yg
0:24 - Newt mends a Paris postcard, possibly from Leta/Theseus (credit /u/Lustrus)
0:27 - The Deluminator? Being used by Young Dumby?
0:32 - Newt's in London (double decker bus driving on left side of road, subway station) at __ion Street looking up - possibly seeing Dumbledore on the roof where they meet in the next scene?
0:53 - Tina in front of a statue, kinda looks like a foot is moving on the statue aka magical but can't tell if just bc camera is moving
0:59 - JACOB IS BACK hopefully his memories were restored somehow
1:06 - Maledictus (Claudia Kim) on a rooftop, with Credence?? Releasing the Obscurus? maledictus + credence appear together in promo photo, maybe they're both at the circus (Maledictus = blood curse, eventually turning into a beast)with Eiffel Tower in background
1:09 - Queenie overlooking an office floor, maybe a government building with what looks like words in French ("Le Niffleur") representing constellations on ceiling - French Magical government building? Actress Fleur de Wit listed "Parisian Ministry Witch" on her online resume last year
1:11 - Leta Lestrange watching a dancer at a black-tie event (engaged to Newt's brother Theseus eventually)
1:16 - words on wall (/u/MississippiBurning) including Lestrange, promo pic looks like it's set in an underground rail line. /u/ThePitifulScion pointed out it appears to be a family tree with Corvus Lestrange at the top, Credence Barebone and Leta Lestrange on the same level below it.
1:17 - French sign for circus, in Paris?
1:19 - Yusuf Kama pushes through the crowd (at the circus)? creature in cage not visible
1:22 - Credence smashes a cage with beasts in it, looks like in a tent - still the circus?
1:26 - carriage pulled by thestrals jumps off of Woolworth Building vs. screenshot, also St. Paul's Chapel of Trinity Church on Wall Street vs. screenshot. Perhaps transporting Grindelwald from MACUSA inside the carriage?
1:34 - wands pointed at Grindelwald looking a little worse for the wear in a carriage
1:35 - Dumbledore tells Newt "it has to be you" on Lambeth bridge vs. real life with Westminster, Victoria Tower and Big Ben in the background
0:49 - Grindelwald from behind in a large room - Ministry of Magic?'
feels like Rosier is the new Bellatrix
1:09 - Queenie overlooking an office floor, maybe a government building
French Ministry of Magic
1:11 - Leta Lestrange watching a dancer at a black-tie event (engaged to Newt's brother Theseus eventually)
reminds me of the Yule Ball.
1:26 - carriage pulled by thestrals jumps off of __ building
Woolworth Building? Grindelwald escaping MACUSA
0:33 - 0:45 HELL YES Jude Law is gonna kill it as Dumbledore :')
Really? I got 0 Dumbledore vibes. He's an eccentric man. He just looked like... a guy... from the orient express or something. And he doesn't speak like him... and where the fuck are his gaudy robes? And he doesn't even have eccentric facial hair! I mean, come on.
I mean, a Dumbledore that's even older wasn't really that eccentric from what we've seen in the Pensieve memories in Half-Blood Prince. People change as they get older. There's no reason he has to have the same exact personality now compared to when he was 115.
Yup, zero Dumbledore vibes. And seriously though, why does literally no one wear robes or hats? There really is no resemblance to the wizarding world in the movies. Even in the HP movies everyone basically stopped wearing robes starting from Prisoner of Azkaban. It's ridiculous
I got Dumbledore vibes, but I really just HATE how no wizards wear robes in Yates' HPU
A lot can happen in 60 years leading up to Sorcerer's Stone.
Completely agree! Like his accent alone is really throwing me off not to mention the rest of his appearance not matching with the older version. I get he's younger but casting should've been better. I don't get any whimsy from this actor but it's only the trailer maybe he'll be better in the film (fingers crossed).
He delivered that line perfectly, twinkle in the eye and everything. I'm excited.
I honestly think he's gonna be the best Dumbledore.
I was a bit skeptical of Jude Law as Dumbledore at first, but now I'm excited to see what he brings to the role.
I'm still skeptical.
I was skeptical because I think Michael Gambon captured Dumbledore perfectly. (Besides THAT scene from GoF) After seeing this trailer, I'm not as worried about Jude's portrayal.
A few weeks back, someone here theorized that Newt became the master of the Elder Wand by disarming Grindelwald. Given the last bit of the sequence, I am almost certain that this is true, which is why Dumbledore says it has to be Newt.
“It has to be you, Newt.”
Oh wait never mind I got this.
(The last graphical bit before the title screen also seems to show a partial Deathly Hallows symbol but only the wand, which again, leads me to think that this is ALL about the Elder Wand.)
Is it not the whole DH symbol? I see the whole of it flash up very briefly around 1.42
Additionally, the title text itself hints at the Deathly Hallows. The I in "Crimes" and the A in "Grindelwald" are both in the style of the Hallows sign. My apologies of this had already been discussed/discovered earlier with the initial title reveal, but it seems pretty obvious that the Hallows will be somehow involved.
Or he's simply not ready to go at Grindelwald yet. In DH it's explained that Dumbledore tried to avoid fighting him until he couldn't wait any longer
I read that as in Newt is already involved, and Dumbledore is counting on him to beat him because Dumbledore can't do it since he loves him. I'm not sure what Newt being the master of of the Elder Wand has to do with someone taking Grindewald down. The Elder Wand simply wouldn't respond to Grindewald. Anyone could beat him.
Hufflepuffs can be heroes!!!!
And awesome ones to boot!
Are they implying that Dumbledore taught DADA? I thought he taught Transfiguration before McGonagall.
How did they imply it? I missed it.
The classroom set Dumbledore is getting interrogated in is the set that was used as the DADA classroom in multiple movies.
The classroom they are in when talking to Dumbledore the first time is the DADA classroom.
Why is Dumbledore wearing muggle clothes while at Hogwarts? I can understand Newt, since he's running around the world and interacting with muggles, but there wouldn't be any at Hogwarts, so shouldn't Dumbledore be in robes?
The movies ignore wizarding fashion often. I don't mind it. I think it's stupid that robes are the norm for hundreds of years.
I'd want a robe inside the castle. Castles are cold and drafty!
I feel like there needs to be more robes. It makes it feel like a more magical world. Loved the movies but seeing Harry Potter fight Voldemort in a zip up jacket was odd.
Looks like Credence might be related to the Lestranges. Or at least some Wizard conspiracy theorist thinks he his.
So Dumbledore left a student with orders to defeat a dark wizard...
I'm sensing a pattern
Trailer looks amazing! Also the new look on johnny depp as grindlewald looks a lot less gimmicky and way more fitting for the character than in the first fantastic beasts movie.
At 1:14, that looks like it might be a Kelpie.
At 1:27, they're stealing the Beauxbatons carriage.
I can't wait for this.
Looks like thestrals to me..
I'm uneasy about this Dumbledore. It looks less quirky, a lot more "standard" than it should.
Like, they tried to make him the handsome cop and it's not bad but...just wrong for Dumbledore.
He looks a lot like how I expected Dumbledore to feel. Handsome, smart, charismatic and with a neat beard.
Jude Law and the Semester Abroad
The Deathly Hallows at the end gave me chills, holy crap this movie is going to be great.
I wonder why Newt never changed clothes
Fuck, seeing Hogwarts brings back memories. Almost made me cry.
That opening scene hit me right in the feels. We're back!
I quite liked the first Fantastic Beasts, this one looks to be pretty good as well. The only gripe I have is the fact that they are using Fantastic Beasts as the brand name, the more sequels there are, the less "Fantastic beasts" there will be, so why call the entire series that. It just seems to be kind of daft you know...
Jude Law 😍
Isn't the timeline for this roughly around the time Voldemort was born? Meaning in 11 years, Dumbledore went from Jude Law to this? I'm not saying he's not a good actor for the part, I just feel like they could've made him look a bit older.
That's more the fault of being unable to make Michael Gambon look young. Dumbledore shouldn't have looked that old when meeting Tom Riddle. Tbh I don't care about Fantastic Beasts being inconsistent with the HP movies, just as long as they're consistent with the books.
Is it too much to ask for wizards to wear wizard's robes?
Can somebody please explain what Dumbledore means by "I can't move against Grindelwald, it has to be you."??
Some people say its about the Elder Wand. I think it's simply about love.
It's also probably political. Dumbledore can't leave Hogwarts, he's a teacher, and his absence would immediately tip Grindelwald off. (Don't forget, Dumbledore, even at this age, is still a majorly influential figure and researcher in the wizarding world as well.)
He said it himself to Harry that he avoided Grindelwald because he was afraid he'd learn that he killed his own sister.
My theory is that Dumbledore is still struggling with his past personal experience with Grindelwald.
At this point Dumbledore's failure to see Grindelwald's flaws, all the way up to the incident with Ariana, is probably heavily on his mind still. He probably doesn't yet trust his own judgement, so he is raising Newt up to fight Grindelwald on his behalf.