FerdchenSeep
9323
4 days ago

Just imagine this building even survived WW2... Now this. :(

wiredpair
7005
4 days ago

Hitler gave orders to burn Paris down and all religious buildings destroyed when the Germans were in retreat. The German general, Dietrich von Choltitz, disobeyed Hitler's order and handed it over to the free french.

Trans_am1978
1713
4 days ago

That Hitler guy was kind of a dick.

Tammo-Korsai
1180
4 days ago

At least he killed Hitler.

TheMrBoot
692
4 days ago

Yeah, but he also killed the guy who killed Hitler.

Fluffy_McDoogle
218
4 days ago

In saying that he did kill the guy who killed the guy who killed the guy who killed hitler.

mattstorm360
203
4 days ago

Single handily too.

KaribouLouDied
73
4 days ago

He was one of the only people in the world that could close enough to kill hitler

IntrigueDossier
19
4 days ago

Not even Tom Cruise himself was able to get that close

Simhacantus
17
4 days ago

I heard Hitler trusted him with his life. What a maroon.

Sky-Roshy
4
4 days ago

He also killed Hitler’s dog tho. I mean yeah the guys a dick, but he didn’t have to involve the dog

lynk7927
3
4 days ago

Literally with one hand.

rallywagonOBS
5
4 days ago

Well, maybe it was a sick ostrich

NaturalFaux
3
4 days ago

He's also the guy that killed the guy that killed Hitler's dog

SmokeAbeer
3
4 days ago

His birthday’s coming up, let’s get baked and celebrate his demise!

idonthaveacoolname13
3
4 days ago

Hitler died of old age in Argentina.

VladTepesDraculea
96
4 days ago

"You don't accept me in Arts school, I'll burn down your artsie city!"

Klabbo
21
4 days ago

A real jerk

ChristianKS94
4
4 days ago

Apparently that opinion is becoming increasingly controversial, for some baffling reason.

t0lkien1
4
4 days ago

That's nonsense, and the second time today I've seen someone repeat this drivel. No-one is defending Hitler or Nazis except a lunatic fringe. What's being increasingly held in contempt is the way the label is being misapplied by those with political agenda to discredit their opponents - as it should be.

Of course, you and those like you spinning even that as somehow being support for a view that was only ever the most cynical of straw men is not surprising either.

But you should still be ashamed.

sockalicious
2319
4 days ago

Where'd you get this idea? My father flew 12 missions over Germany as bombardier in a B-17 - I still have his manual for the Norden computing bombsight he used. He stated on more than one occasion that he had strict orders not to drop his bombs on cathedrals, churches, or hospitals. WWII was not total war and was not conducted as a total war.

TerrorAlpaca
1096
4 days ago

also we shouldn't forget that landmarks like the Ulmer Münster are really helpful if you need to find your way.

Marknt0sh
816
4 days ago

This is often overlooked. For a bomber, finding your target can be really, really hard, especially if it’s dark. Any kind of recognizable landmark is of strategic value.

conradical30
1036
4 days ago

I don’t know about all that. I come outside in the morning after it’s been dark all night and those damn birds have successfully bombed their target (my car) every time. No landmarks in my yard.

ObamaBeenGauzy
432
4 days ago

Your car is the landmark

theivoryserf
74
4 days ago

The landmark is your car

LaboratoryOne
50
4 days ago

Your mom is the landmark, it's like hitting the broad side of a barn.

Bugman657
67
4 days ago

What have you done

DRCROX
8
4 days ago

I can't believe you've done this.

c0d3man
20
4 days ago

Ihr Auto ist das Wahrzeichen.

der_MOND
18
4 days ago

Your car is the landmark

cy4ndr0id
19
4 days ago

I think these guys might be onto something. Perhaps your car IS the landmark

goblett
3
4 days ago

Maybe.

aequitas3
18
4 days ago

Your car is the landmark

giorgosbouldas
10
4 days ago

Your car is the landmark

Not_My_Real_SN
11
4 days ago

Your car is the landmark

Kinteoka
11
4 days ago

Your car is the landmark.

eSPiaLx
9
4 days ago

Your car is the landmark

LiberalsAmIRight
9
4 days ago

Your car is the landmark

Viima123
9
4 days ago

Your car is the landmark

FillinThaBlank
6
4 days ago

Your car is the landmark

CopeOps5LMFAO
4
4 days ago

Your car is the landmark

TomGrooves
3
4 days ago

After taking a walk, sleeping a few weeks and reading a book on the subject, I too have come to the conclusion that your car is the landmark

ManiacFive
49
4 days ago

And still done to this day. I knew a guy in Swedish Lapland. And his house is way out in the middle of nowhere. Routinely used by Swedish military aircraft as a waypoint, as its literally the only thing for miles besides forest and tundra. He’s constantly getting buzzed by helicopters making their turn.

Russia ever invades and he’s either very safe, or very dead.

Mettanine
5
4 days ago

Schroedinger's guy in Swedish Lapland

Maktaka
23
4 days ago

It's why in WWII the Americans mostly did bombing runs during the day, for easier targeting. The British mostly did bombing runs during the night, for the safety of their pilots.

jeffboms
9
4 days ago

Not only for planes, a infantery and airborn uinit can realy make use of a large building like that as a way point seeing they are all build in the same way. So its a wayfinder, rallypoint and compas in one

jackyalin
6
4 days ago

There is a cathedral in St. Petersburg with a giant gold cross on top, that was left standing so the German artillery could use it as a reference point

1337duck
4
4 days ago

Especially in the dark part is really important. A German city on the Swiss border avoided getting bombed by keeping their lights on. Thus, pretending to be Switzerland.

kankurou
3
4 days ago

Especially for a bomber running on 1940's technology

JMer806
45
4 days ago

This is the specific reason that the cathedral in Cologne was not destroyed - it was used as a landmark by Allied flight crews. Despite this, it was still heavily damaged.

mrm00r3
5
4 days ago

If you’ve leveled an entire town using the tallest building for reference, you can knock a few feet off and no one will notice.

TheObstruction
3
4 days ago

Bombs weren't exactly precision weapons back then. With new sighting systems they weren't the "toss it out and hope for the best" weapons of WW1, but they only guidance they had was gravity.

JohnSelth
394
4 days ago

WWII was not total war and was not conducted as a total war.

WWII was a text book case of total war. Total War is beyond the aspect of fighting but rather something that encompasses the entire population of participating nations that is then geared entirely for the war effort. Meaning that the economic, social, cultural, judicial systems are all tuned specifically to support the direct involvement of military forces fighting in whatever front. Total war also has its physical elements such as the total destruction of cities and invasion/conquest of capitals and countries (including the destruction of civilian targets that are then defined as military targets), however, destroying a city alone does not constitute total war. The key aspect is the involvement of all aspects of a nation on a biblical scale.

piscina_de_la_muerte
61
4 days ago

I was taught total war = all resources to war effort. I've never heard it in the context of total destruction of the other side. After reading your response I'm a little fuzzy on that that aspect now?

JohnSelth
75
4 days ago

There is a physical element to total war where everything becomes a target. Since the entire aspect of a nation is geared to war, suddenly everything from civilian housing to infrastructure is now deemed a military target of opportunity.

h-v-smacker
28
4 days ago

I don't know about the Western front, but it sure was a total war on the Eastern.

hardolaf
34
4 days ago

It was a total war in that the entire economies of nation involved became dedicated solely to fighting the war. The Russians practiced their long honed tactic of Scorched Earth which guaranteed victory at any cost because no force could hope follow them across a barren wasteland to the Pacific coast with the complete destruction of all infrastructure.

As they fled from the Western Front, than left almost no bridge standing, almost no dam unblown, and almost every road mined in ways that make IEDs in modern conflicts look like child's play.

Every town took by the Germans came at the cost of huge manpower and equipment losses. Teams of a handful of scouts carrying bags of explosives with occasional infantry support made short work of what equipment the Germans succeeded on moving into Russia every winter. Not only did these soldiers have proper winter gear, they had trained and fought in many winters before. The only force in the world capable of beating them in winter combat were the Suomi who inhabit Finland.

And beyond all of that, as the war went on, the only way to live as a Russian soldier was to push forward. Anyone seen fleeing was to be shot on sight.

h-v-smacker
32
4 days ago

The Russians practiced their long honed tactic of Scorched Earth

Look up the pictures of Russian cities, like Leningrad or Stalingrad. They weren't devastated by some "scorched earth" at the hands of the soviets. They were systematically bombed by the nazis.

If anything, the soviets practiced the "pack as much shit as you can and move it behind the Ural mountains" tactic. Whole factories have been moved to the deep rear, where they have resumed operation in a matter of days or weeks, oftentimes without as much as proper roof over the heads of the workers or their equipment.

and almost every road mined in ways that make IEDs in modern conflicts look like child's play.

Read up about clearing the nazi mines and explosives around Leningrad. That would sober you up.

And beyond all of that, as the war went on, the only way to live as a Russian soldier was to push forward. Anyone seen fleeing was to be shot on sight.

Complete BS. The vast majority (and we're speaking ~99% here) of deserters has been returned to the fighting troops (regular, or penal battalions at the worst). People have no idea what the Order 227 was, and how it worked, neither in Russia nor abroad. Not to mention that Order 227 never prohibited retreat ­— it prohibited to withdraw from positions without an order to do so. The way Enemy at the Gates portrays it, the soldiers being mowed down from the front by the nazis, and from their rear by nkvd, is nothing but military gore porn.

AskMeForLinks
19
4 days ago

Russia doesn't fucking play goddamn

celnox
16
4 days ago

Russia was in the 41st millennium, but with less las guns

Ridicatlthrowaway
11
4 days ago

To be fair, neither does Finland when at odds with Russia.

Enoch__Root
3
4 days ago

If all resources are going to the war effort, then all resources (and people, people are a resource) are valid targets, which leads to total destruction. Realistically this isn't ever true, but WWII is about as close as we've gotten, especially in Japan, China and the Eastern Front.

thebudusnatcher
3
4 days ago

It was the same on the Western front for everyone but the Americans. Look up the blitz.

Noname_FTW
52
4 days ago

As a German I heard that too. It's the reason many cathedrals in our cities still stand. They were barely touched (most of them I think). I made a super short google search for the Dom in Cologne. While a few bombs did actually hit those buildings by accidents most of them afaik survived with little damage.

Good thing for the notre dam is that by now it is very likely to be very well documented. I wouldn't even be surprised if it was mapped out in 3D for a virtual visit.

It will probably mostly be a political and financial issue the get the cathedral rebuild.

JMer806
15
4 days ago

I took a tour of the Dom back in 2008, and the guide told us that the cathedral still stood simply because it was used as a landmark by Allied bomb crews. No orders to spare it (that he was aware of), no hand of God ... just convenience.

Sloppy1sts
3
4 days ago

Does the building show any obvious battle damage?

RambleLikeALeaf
35
4 days ago

And Dresden. So it goes.

colevatican
24
4 days ago

And Stalingrad, London, Warsaw, Frampol, Rotterdam, Shanghai...

WarriorSloth89
13
4 days ago

"The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everybody else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw, and half a hundred other places, they put that rather naïve theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now, they are going to reap the whirlwind."

-Arthur "Bomber" Harris

LogicCure
10
4 days ago

“No enemy bomber can reach the Ruhr. If one reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Göring. You can call me Meyer.”

  • Herman Göring Meyer
IntrigueDossier
3
4 days ago

“What’re you gonna do, own me?”

  • quote by man owned
SmoresDaniel
37
4 days ago

that guy is a classic case of reddit historian. Pull something out of your ass that you found online and take as fact

Chmielok
29
4 days ago

Lol, are you aware of the total destruction of Warsaw? It wasn't done accidentally, it was on purpose. Dresden is also a nice example.

drharlinquinn
36
4 days ago

I'd say this is how to conduct total war. It provides a refuge for non combatants and consolidates the people for processing on case invasion is successful. It benefits literally everyone

BreadOfLoafer
9
4 days ago

I believe he means total war in the absolute sense. Like civillians including the women, children and elderly are expected to be part of the resistance/effort.

It's uncommon as I imagine it would generally just serve to slow the enemy down as untrained combatants aren't going to be that useful outside of knowing the environment better and forcing the enemy to be more cautious as they progress, but that is why it is reserved for desperate situations.

JohnSelth
14
4 days ago

Even then he is still wrong, as all aspects of that occurred during WWII.

Ryan0413
31
4 days ago

My dad talks with a lot of veterans, one was in a tank, he said they used to put a shell in the spire of churches because snipers could be there

Father-Sha
58
4 days ago

Well I played CoD Modern Warfare and I remember being told not to fire on the church when operating the gun ship so...

NotVladmir_Putin
24
4 days ago

Sorry OP, I think he has you beat

joe4553
6
4 days ago

I mean it’s not like there couldn’t be different generals and commanders giving different orders on that.

Grae-Costa
3
4 days ago

Yeah my great-grandfather was a tank driver and always told me the same about his time in Germany. That said, I never got the impression they were under orders to do this, but that it was just a good idea to stay safe

QuasarSandwich
23
4 days ago

WWII was not total war and was not conducted as a total war.

Er.... Yes it was...

As well as the key points in u/JohnSelth's comment below, talking about the true definition of "total war", you should consider the differences between Western and Eastern fronts: look at the manner in which the Nazis annihilated Warsaw, for example, and the extent to which they set out to destroy Poland's cultural heritage (this graph showing information destruction throughout history is both fascinating and chilling in any context IMO).

d3str0yer
12
4 days ago

I met a ww2 veteran at a motorway station a couple years ago who recognized my cars license plate to be from ulm. he apologized for the destruction he caused and explained that they were supposed to attack the münster as well but refused.

CptCotoi
6
4 days ago

bs on cathedrals, churches, or hospitals. WWII was not total war and was not conducted as a total war.

well at least not between western countries anyway. Russians were not that lucky. They were in an total war and they were the ones who defeated Germany in the end, regardless of the cover-ups like Hollywood movies or making 5 May EU's day just so we don't talk about WW2.

Also the China and US faced an total war with Japan empire, so this "not total war" thing, is mostly wrong because it turns out it was a very specific thing, not the norm.

navyseal722
7
4 days ago

As someone who is currently getting a degree on these subject. Just went over the Norton bombsight and strategic bombing in ww2. I can say that ww2 was in fact TOTAL WAR. -source, DeGroot "The Bomb"

LordBiscuits
5
4 days ago

Uh, Dresden?

Cole3003
7
4 days ago

Dresden was a strategic target, though. It was attacked based on its factories and railway hub.

EyeNongGong36
4
4 days ago

Dresdon , Hiroshima , and Nagasaki would disagree.

Apex_Nigga
3
4 days ago

I can't find the context of which you used "total war" online. And plenty of cities were completely decimated including hospital, cathedrals, churches. Could you elaborate further?

Itamaki_Chugs_Dick
3
4 days ago

WWII was not total war and was not conducted as a total war.

Laughs in Hiroshima

colevatican
62
4 days ago

I don't think that Allied bombers could accurately choose targets during strategic bombings. I find this story very implausible.

Dokkobro
22
4 days ago

They specifically trained for strategic bombings.

Carpet bombings were different.

Tehbeefer
21
4 days ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norden_bombsight

in peacetime testing the Norden demonstrated a circular error probable (CEP)[a] of 75 feet (23 m), an astonishing performance for the era.

 

In practice it was not possible to achieve the expected accuracy in combat conditions, with the average CEP in 1943 of 370 metres (1,200 ft) being similar to Allied and German results. Both the Navy and Air Forces had to give up on the idea of pinpoint attacks during the war.

They might've tried to avoid bombing Cathedrals, Hospitals, etc. I can certainly believe that.

colevatican
10
4 days ago

But "strategic" bombing in WW2 was basically just carpet bombing. The accuracy of the bombings meant the smallest targets possible were small cities. I highly doubt that individual buildings could be missed of hit on command.

ownage99988
3
4 days ago

uh, thats false. allied bombers were under strict orders to do the exact opposite of that.

Galle_
9
4 days ago

Yeah, that sounds like something Hitler would do.

Nuwave042
4
4 days ago

Good move, still a Nazi

shro700
3
4 days ago

Lol this whole story is a joke. Von choltiz was a piece of shit. The real story is totally different.

ThePr1d3
19
4 days ago

I'm sorry what ? As a Parisian i can tell you everyone knows about the "Is Paris burning?" story of how Choltitz decided to not destroy our city

Fabarm_SAT8
6
4 days ago

What was the real story?

KayfabeRankings
4
4 days ago

Care to explain?

shro700
3
4 days ago

Sorry I don't speak English very well but von choltiz was agree with Hitler's order of destroying Paris. He tried and started to plant explosives but without the time, manpower and explosives to achieve the mission he failed to destroy Paris before the arrival of allied forces and uprising of parisians.

Von choltiz previously destroyed several cities across Europe.

This guy is a fraud and a war-criminal.

FerdchenSeep
181
4 days ago

That's why is made fun of french army during WW2, but I think it was a right choice.

Tehbeefer
10
4 days ago

I do wonder. I can't really blame Pétain, given what he'd lived through. Not very nice for the people of Eastern Europe though.

Tarbram
6
4 days ago

No, fuck Pétain.

RunShootDrink
7
4 days ago

Fought to the last man most likely. Which is exactly why they declared it an open city in 1940. It wasn’t worth the destruction to civilian lives. They had already lost, by opening the city and falling back to the sea they preserved a lot of men who returned four years later liberating their homeland.

aerovado
33
4 days ago

Let's just hope this burning was from an accident and not a malicious act.

El_Mamut
18
4 days ago

It was purposely not targeted.

muffinmonk
9
4 days ago

no it didn't. it was hollowed out and bombed throughout the war.

only a shell remained and it was rebuilt.

France will rebuild this again, stop moping so much

staryoshi06
7
4 days ago

The building will survive the fire. It's already survived previous damage.

Jarrrad
7
4 days ago

The fire didn’t destroy it completely

the chapel and other pieces of the building that were made from stone still stand

Noodie5
4
4 days ago

The structure survived so it’ll be fixed

jransom98
5
4 days ago

The building mostly survived the fire...it wasn't leveled or anything, the roof and spire are gone. Sure, it's tragic, but the majority of the building is still there, and what was burned can mostly be rebuilt. I don't know how much, if any, art was destroyed, but given the fact that they've got it under control now I'd say most survived.

Slurm818
3
4 days ago

It was destroyed in WWII. Literally one wall left standing.

thechikinguy
3489
4 days ago

Detailed models and countless archival measurements/scans don’t get you to the front of r/gaming.

ablablababla
584
4 days ago

try posting on r/archivalmeasurements

thechikinguy
213
4 days ago

Oh baby

GarlicThread
121
4 days ago
Armoranth
105
4 days ago

That sub is an untapped karma goldmine

Jravensloot
5
4 days ago

Of course thats not a real sub. Not sure why I clicked on it anyway.

GrokAllTheHumans
4
4 days ago

Ngl I feel positively blue balled that that isn’t a sub

RedditPoster05
3
4 days ago

Right up there with r/HistoricalTaxRecordsandAccountingMethods

silverlight145
62
4 days ago

43k upvotes... This is angering me, man.

cmcewen
9
4 days ago

Do these people really think there aren’t photos and videos of the entire inside of that place?

Marky-lessFunkyBunch
437
4 days ago

I believe the entire building was 3D scanned recently, prior to the renovation works. Thankfully.

Hopefully Ubisoft will add in a Discovery mode (akin to AC: Origins) to educate kids on this magnificent building, whilst an even more complex one-for-one virtual representation is created.

saors
219
4 days ago

It would be cooler (IMO) if the French Government provided the scans online with a exploration interface.

reddragon105
70
4 days ago

And charge/ask for donations for it, with all proceeds going to the renovation.

imcrapyall
54
4 days ago

Sigh. More dlc?

TheObstruction
7
4 days ago

French government is a front for EA.

scrollingforgodot
4
4 days ago

Fuck this is a good idea.

enddream
13
4 days ago

It likely wouldn’t look as grand considering the artists input in AC. Both are great ideas and have value though.

Craig_the_Intern
95
4 days ago

...so how is AC an important piece of historical preservation again?

advice_animorph
114
4 days ago

Cause how else is OP going to get dar karma

yomama629
59
4 days ago

Because 12 year-olds gonna circlejerk about how video games are the most important thing in human history

NameYeff
6
4 days ago

'it's set in a historical period, it's basically educational'

wofo
73
4 days ago

Also it is one of the most photographed buildings in the world. They did reconstructions of things like this before we ever had 3d imaging.

TerrorAlpaca
27
4 days ago

Theres also a VFX Company called Faber Courtial (or something like that) and they do animation and reconstruction stuff for documentaries. They accurately rebuild landmarks for these documentaries, and sometimes you can even visit them in VR.

Ledoux88
8
4 days ago

You say it like it's gone forever. They will rebuild it like they have rebuilt it in the past. It's been done multiple times in the history.

maschmidt9193
5
4 days ago

this is by far the worst circlejerk I've seen on this site

Wolves_Ov_Siberia
4
4 days ago

You can repost this then and get even more of the epic gamer 😎 karma

drunkandy
293
4 days ago

There was a fairly recent high-res laser scan:

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/06/150622-andrew-tallon-notre-dame-cathedral-laser-scan-art-history-medieval-gothic/

The data doesn't seem to actually be online but it's somewhere.

RabbitPoopRaisins
18
4 days ago

I'd love to give those laser scans a playthrough, will they support 4k TVs?

surveyorandrew
14
4 days ago

The amount of data in laser scans is immense; you'd have to have a top end computer to support the rendering in real time. Reviewing the data at work takes a lot of time; we're still at the point where the data collection is easier than the processing and use of the data. Even with laser scanners, we're still creating 2D sets of plans for our highway engineering projects, and supplementing that with relatively simple 3D models.

DaLB53
4
4 days ago

Ubisoft generally has multiple teams working on their games, one focused solely on recreated the world where that particular game takes place.

In AC3 they, down to the street level, recreated Boston and New York, same with London in syndicate and yes, Paris in Unity. And they put even more work into the design, indie and out of the more famous buildings.

So while it obviously isn’t going to be an exact, perfect, 1:1 mirror image of Notre Dame, it’ll be damn close and you know the team worked hard to make it so.

Bacalao401
9
4 days ago

Yeah, I definitely believe it’s a close representation that the team worked very hard on. I agree with that, but it’s just silly to say that at least we have some historical record of this important piece of historical preservation via a video game.

Sardonic_Samurai
3
4 days ago

Paris has an architecture museum near Eiffel Tower that has a full scale model as well as lifesize recreations of most of the adornments. I was there yesterday

Xbxbxb123
3
4 days ago

There are, OP is a dumbass

snazzletooth
3470
4 days ago

Agreed! The dev team said it took them two years to recreate it. However, "the artwork inside the Notre Dame — including its stained-glass windows — will differ slightly due to copyright laws."

mywork9742
1261
4 days ago

I'd imagine they have lots of images and such saved on all those things in an effort to avoid them. They may not have wound up in game, but it's likely they have records.

DeathCap4Cutie
1209
4 days ago

To be fair so do literally hundreds of thousands of others. It’s not like it was mystery inside and only these game devs had pictures.

MichiganMan12
627
4 days ago

which is why this post is really dumb

DrPopadopolus
182
4 days ago

Not really. What's important is they made a 3 dimensional representation of the building that can be easily explored and referenced.

Scaldera93
235
4 days ago

Google has a complete 3D mapping of the inside and outside of the cathedral, which arguably is immensely more valuable and accurate than a video game.

ebby-pan
35
4 days ago

There's a device used for a lot of these structures that precisely scans the building and renders it digitally, accurate to the point of finding construction faults that would have caused collapse before the damage was visible to the eye

Source: i took a medieval art class a few terms ago and we spent a lot of time on architecture and historical buildings

SeattleBattles
4
4 days ago

Agreed. You could recreate the game from Google's data, you could not create google's data from the game.

PJ7
30
4 days ago

The 3D model used in AC Unity is completely useless to experts wanting to reconstruct the building though.

Now the hundreds of 3D scanning (among which, an incredibly precise and complete laser scanning done a few years back) however, that's a different matter. The source material the devs used is probably even more useful.

Since most textures in that 3D level, most props and details will have been just made up by environment 3D artists.

This is in fact a really dumb post.

TomLube
7
4 days ago

There is literally 3D lasers scans of the entire interior and exterior that are accurate to within 5mm. This isn't shit lol.

screaminginfidels
111
4 days ago

DAE gamers saved society?

tophusurvivor
94
4 days ago

It's not even like it was the cathedral in any recent capacity that the game recreated.

GrayMask
29
4 days ago

How has the cathedral changed since then?

---0__0---
275
4 days ago

It's burnt down now.

Bulovak
57
4 days ago

Also the front fell off

Scaldera93
21
4 days ago

Is it supposed to do that? Is there a danger of other cathedrals having the front fall off?

tophusurvivor
33
4 days ago

More like Notre Flame

dittbub
3
4 days ago

too soon

tophusurvivor
12
4 days ago

Gotta strike while the steeple's hot.

Casen_
3
4 days ago

The top fell off.

GrayMask
4
4 days ago

Yea that’s essentially the same joke the other guy made

SlobOnMyKnobb
8
4 days ago

Yeah this is fucking cringey. My god.

AmbrosiiKozlov
5
4 days ago

Welcome to r/gaming lmao

sylect
5
4 days ago

Correct, weirdly self important for the gaming community to think WE'RE the heroes here

SentinelSquadron
18
4 days ago

I mean, every bit counts. Being Catholic I can appreciate the devs doing this, and I cannot doubt how good it is that they did this.

moon_rabbits
20
4 days ago

I was gonna say, unless it's a 1:1 recreation, then no, it's not important in the slightest.

Marsmar-LordofMars
5
4 days ago

That's actually really cool. How do they do that?

TheHYPO
19
4 days ago

Lasers

Reddit-Sucks-Dick
5
4 days ago

At least we know what started the fire /s

ThePandarantula
105
4 days ago

Notre Dam also sees a ton of tourists every year, heck, even every day and there are likely an impossible to curate amount of the entire church. I think they will have the ability to reconstruct, the sad portion is the loss and if any artifacts were damaged (beyond the entire building as an artifact).

DL_throw24
22
4 days ago

I'm pretty sure I remember you wasn't allowed/supposed to take photos inside it when I went. However my memory could be getting mixed up with another building

adamdoesmusic
52
4 days ago

Luckily, this rarely stops anyone.

DL_throw24
4
4 days ago

It stopped me lmao I have no pictures of the inside I wish I did

ThePandarantula
18
4 days ago

You could be right, the last time I was there was 2014 I think and there may have been signs for no photos. While this is partly due to the potential for flashes to damage more sensitive artifacts, it is probably also in part because they want you to buy the photos from them. That said, the church has likely been photographed inside and out and undergone rigorous study over the years. The best we can really hope for is that this uncovers something new, as unlikely as that sounds. But it is not uncommon with these older buildings to have that happen.

They will rebuild and it will still be impressive. Let's not forget Rheims was hit by a firebomb in WWI that actually melted the lead roof and had it flowing from the gargoyles' mouths. It might not be all original, but there will be enough for our children to see.

Rancherfer
8
4 days ago

I was there in 2014 and you were allowed to take pictures of anything except people that were praying or during the mass. Maybe you are thinking of Sacre Coeur, they actually escort you out of the church if you take pictures.

rokislt10
3
4 days ago

You're thinking of the Sistine Chapel

eetuu
3
4 days ago

There are people who work to restore historically significant buildings and historians of architecture. I’m sure they have looked at every inch of Notre Dame.

r00stafarian
95
4 days ago

WTH? Would those copyrights be long expired by now? Do copyrights not expire in France?

MagnusTW
140
4 days ago

God has great lawyers.

theg721
30
4 days ago

Who would win in a copyright battle, God, or the mouse?

KenanTheFab
13
4 days ago

Does the mouse have the power to transcend puny three dimensional space to have constantly round ears no matter the angle, while also being the mascot of one of the biggest corporations to date that is growing in size daily?

Karkava
3
4 days ago

I'm not even sure if he even is a mouse...

zaphod_beeble_bro
3
4 days ago

Trick question, same guy.

groarmon
9
4 days ago

Yeah, like you can take a photo of the Eiffel tower on daytime, no copyright. But you can't in nightime, copyright, because of the lights.

TheObstruction
5
4 days ago

That's the dumbest fucking thing I may have every heard, and I live in America, so I know dumb.

nijio03
4
4 days ago

France’s copyright law is dumb beyond measure. Sadly Ubisoft is French so they have to abide it. If a US developer made it they wouldn’t care as it’d be legal under US copyright law.

Sebetter
7
4 days ago

There are actually some pretty weird rules in France I believe. For example. There’s copyright on the lights of the Eiffel Tower, but not of the tower itself.

Shit I mixed up copyright and privacy laws. The video is still interesting though.

https://youtu.be/VYH87V6EHrk

primo_pastafarian
87
4 days ago

Copyright?

Out of curiosity, which art pieces were copyright? Considering it was an 850 year old building, it would have to be pretty new art to be able to fall under copyright...

Helmic
51
4 days ago

Yeah, that sounds extremely weird. In the US, anything that old would be under public domain and you could do with it as you please. Any old asshole is permitted to print out their own copy of the Sherlock Holmes books and sell them for money. It may be EU or France-specific, a law perhaps aimed at preventing commercial exploitation of public domain stuff. Or it might just be Ubi lawyers being overly careful.

garbagewithnames
21
4 days ago

Are you saying Assasin's Creed isn't already educational in it's own way? (Though, it's not free, no...)

rophel
16
4 days ago

I’m more alluding to the educational modes they included in later games without combat. Due to copyright issues they could include the historically accurate textures in a standalone free educational game to help preserve the cathedral for future generations.

Johnny_Mc2
3
4 days ago

if you go to a used game store, the AC games for last gen consoles are all cheap as hell. like $2 per game. they aren’t free, but they’re not expensive either

InkDagger
3
4 days ago

Uh, Unity itself is actually a REALLY shitty and poorly researched take on French Revolution.

Richmard
1973
4 days ago

This is peak /r/gaming

obeah6611
1141
4 days ago

r/gaming doesn't know architects exist lol

AniviaPls
651
4 days ago

😎 gamers unite to save paris

TheonsBalls
172
4 days ago

Something something society

dragonphlegm
63
4 days ago

I heard we live in one

Richmard
7
4 days ago

Yeah or cameras apparently lol

ChuckleheadCharlie
655
4 days ago

Cashing in karma on a tragedy by somehow relating it to video games?

Yup

epicblob
238
4 days ago

all we need is some mild racism and complaints about microtransactions and it's set

cookedbread
212
4 days ago

we must prevent the notre dame from becoming an epic store exclusive 😤

Bulovak
77
4 days ago

Also does anyone remember playing the underrated gem Mario 64?

diddy96
47
4 days ago

As a cultured gamer, I frown upon call of duty for being the same formula every year. Btw have you seen the new pokemans

Firewarrior333
18
4 days ago

Also it annoys me that Notre Dame has a feminine name, this kinda feels like forced diversity tbh

NeverOriginal123
36
4 days ago

"mild"

irondragoon_
29
4 days ago

I'm kind of getting bored playing good looking white males aged 18-34 with medium length brown hair being the underdog and growing to champion. Like there are no other possible good story lines that could exist.

MisogynysticFeminist
10
4 days ago

If I can play as a woman I'm instantly 50% more interested in a game.

averyhappychappy
4
4 days ago

Username does not check out, or maybe it does, I’m thoroughly confused

TrailerParkBride
9
4 days ago

Somehow less autistic and disengenuous than this

absentpattern
32
4 days ago

Yeah that was my immediate though. "Oh shit, an international historical tragedy that millions are very very upset over! I'll get so many fake internet points for this"

FriedChickenDinners
15
4 days ago

Do you remember which level you were on when the spire fell?

justsyr
11
4 days ago

My girlfriend and I made a vow to go there some time in the future but she died of autism and cancer so here I am now with her dusts and tears in my eyes because I feel she's with me thanks for the gold gentle redditor, here's a pic of this burnt thing I took in front of Notre Dame plz thx for your support.

Richmard
8
4 days ago

I think you misspelled ‘great content’ 😂

Rum_Smuggling_Shaman
147
4 days ago

Gamers leading the charge, this is epic 😎😎

WhiteyMacGillicuddy
5
4 days ago

Epic BAD 😠

Lonk_the_VFD_member
61
4 days ago

Take that anyone who said that video games are bad!

_thedarkknight
8
4 days ago

Ubi bad because Ubi games not on steam!

That's what /r/gaming has said multiple times over.

spiritbearr
42
4 days ago

and now people are saying Unity's story is great. It's not. It's extremely lazy and cliche when Assassins should have caused the revolution and lost control. If you like the romance fine but they chickened out from doing anything interesting with the story.

nathanwolf99
5
4 days ago

Yeah I've kinda noticed this lately. For the past couple years all I've heard about unity was that it was really bad. But in the last couple of months I've seen more people praising it. Idk why.

Dragon_yum
16
4 days ago

Once again us gamers saved the day!

GodofIrony
4
4 days ago

Thought process as I wandered into this thread from the frontpage.

Oh, the recreation is important somehow? Lets take a look. {clicks link}

This is just a picture.

Oh, this is just an assertion by the o.p., the recreation is useless.

Neat {Clicks away}

Tehbeefer
93
4 days ago

And then Andrew Tallon died just last November.

declawedboys
55
4 days ago

Huh, he was comparatively young too (49). Crazy, I doubt he could have imagined his project could ever be as relevant as it is at the moment (and I bet he would mourn the “why” for its relevance).

GlobalWarmer12
14
4 days ago

That's great news. If hate to see a developer's dickbutt Easter egg make it to the stained glass window because they used a game as reference.

EpicEagle1776
626
4 days ago

no it hasn't

Lothric27
165
4 days ago

Yeah... plenty of pictures.. i bet even a full 360 video tour exists somewhere

EpicEagle1776
112
4 days ago

but video games

ovoxo_tofu
92
4 days ago

But the clickbait

lemskroob
537
4 days ago

an important piece of historical preservation..

just stop, it has not.

Even if it was based on 100% accurate data, the source data and modeling is more important, and will trump any use this video game has.

NotTryingToBeSassy
69
4 days ago

Not to mention that the main building has been saved and preserved successfully according to recent reports, there are even photos from OP's exact same viewpoint from after the fire. Bit of smoke and soot, but successfully preserved!

This isn't rejoice for historical preservation, it's just blatant karma whoring.

Edit: Holy cow, looks like even the vault has mostly made it safely from the fire.

Bacalao401
44
4 days ago

Yeah, really surprised so many people jumped on this shitty post. It’s a video game modeled after the cathedral but stop it. It does not have any kind of historical importance as a remaining documentation of the cathedral. There are actual 3D models as well as photos and videos of the real thing. This was a such a dumbass post.

Kangar
85
4 days ago

Hopefully it's still put together to save time when they use it for the reconstruction.

dragonphlegm
64
4 days ago

You have to work quick to assemble the puzzle. The future of the notre dame is literally in your hands

GreenSage45
25
4 days ago

lol

smilin_buscuit
7
4 days ago

If you find it, you should set it ablaze. You know for continuity.

TooShiftyForYou
472
4 days ago

Synchronizing the viewpoint atop Notre Dame was one of the more stunning moments of the game.

KnightRedeemed
234
4 days ago

AC: Unity was one of the best AC games but was never polished. Once you get a gaming rig that can run it(one from the future, relative to the game's release date), you realize how perfect it almost was.

MotorBicycle
118
4 days ago

AC Unity will always be my favourite game from the series. It was the first game to really get the movement system right, and the animations, models, textures, etc. were all really top-notch. It's a shame that the negative press it got at the beginning killed its hopes of having a more positive legacy.

NeokratosRed
47
4 days ago

I loved the atmosphere, got my PS4 last summer and played for the first time. Not even the slightest bug, and by far my favourite game of the series (I still need to play Origins and Odyssey). I absolutely loved it! The part at the beginning when you play as a child in Versailles, the music, the light, I wish I could thank the team who worked on it, because it got so much hate and it was my favourite :(

andres92
6
4 days ago

I loved almost everything about Unity too, playing it last year. It's visually stunning and plays really fluidly. You should definitely check out Origins and Odyssey, they're even more polished and the games are enormous. They're a new direction for the series but I think they've hit on something pretty awesome.

Blessings_Of_Babylon
3
4 days ago

I was fortunate enough to have zero issues running Unity, other than long loading times when launching which is hardly game-breaking.

I played that game almost exclusivley for about five days before hearing about how "shit" it was.

I was gobsmacked. I was running around this sandbox recreation of revolutionary France, with almost complete freedom in movement, hundreds of models on screen and all running on a beautiful engine.

Sure, the story was shit and i did miss some of the older AC features, but the setting, scale and detail alone was amazing.

Im very upset that not everyone got to experience the same thing as i did. Synchronising with Notre-Dame and seeing a massive crowd below the city, and seeing the massive map and knowing that i could go to those places? That was a kinda "This is Next-Gen" moment for me.

H3ll0_Th3r3
15
4 days ago

The end of the story ruined it a bit for me, but I’ll admit, the game itself was pretty fun.

Ssolidus007
3
4 days ago

AC endings are always disappointing. They just end.

H3ll0_Th3r3
6
4 days ago

True, but Unity’s infuriated me. You were going through the game irl trying to find the bones of a Templar guy in the catacombs and get told in the end that “the bones are too old to be useful, but keep playing to find other stuff!” (As if everything you did was for nothing)

quantamskates
14
4 days ago

Performance aside, the game was bug city.

firedrakes
12
4 days ago

Yes. The dev had to re coded the whole city. It took 8gb. That how poorly it was orignal done.

weristjonsnow
3
4 days ago

Played great in 2018 though! Lol

hohihohi
174
4 days ago

Yeah, this post just feels kinda slimy and gross.

"Hey guys, I know this important cultural icon is burning down, but it's fine, we have it in Assassin's Creed!"

Sandgrease
10
4 days ago

I thought I should load up Unity to see it again

fleebjuice69420
24
4 days ago

It literally hasn’t even finished burning to the ground yet and people are already figuratively rummaging through the smoldering pile of rubble trying to snatch whatever they can for themselves

klaq
8
4 days ago

no shit. let the ashes cool at least.

Secretlylovesslugs
-1
4 days ago

Fishing for upvotes? Maybe. I think it's a relevant and interesting mention of a video game not everyone has played. For a sub that consistently puts out bad content this is cool and promotes a good discussion.

ChuckleheadCharlie
7
4 days ago

It is barely relevant. It's an excuse to make a sad news story somehow about video games so they can post it to a default sub.

francois22
277
4 days ago

In no way whatsoever.

Gliese581h
135
4 days ago

It makes me irrationally angry that 57 thousand people were stupid enough to upvote this blatantly false karma whoring.

_bowlerhat
62
4 days ago

it's an insult to those who actually doing preservation works.

Mwakay
29
4 days ago

In the "there was a tragedy I need to karmawhore the shit out of it" way.

CormanT
5
4 days ago

This videogame is literally the only record of the Notre Dame left 🤷‍♂️

[deleted]
298
4 days ago

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ZetaLordVader
135
4 days ago

Did you saw the Athens Acropolis on Odyssey? That's impressive too.

2Pizzas1Box
61
4 days ago

They say of the Acropolis where the Parthenon is...

PoolieMike1985
16
4 days ago

Poor Stephen.

TheJackFroster
11
4 days ago

That there are no straight lines :)

randomtechguy142857
5
4 days ago

Whadda they say? Whadda they say?

PoolieMike1985
2
4 days ago

Poor Stephen.

ThePandarantula
12
4 days ago

They may recreate specific areas, but I did archaeology in Karystos and found Karystos in Odyssey. I was disappointed.

Arkanta
44
4 days ago

Even if it had not: humanity has rebuilt lots of stuff before we had laser scans. Especially post WW1 and WW2. And somehow we managed just fine.

No one will call ubisoft for this, lets get real.

kickintheface
5
4 days ago

Now they can rebuild the cathedral with heated lounge chairs, 90" LED televisions, a state of the art sound system, and maybe even a high end cafe that serves alcohol. It can be sponsored by Pepsi or something.

FuckTheVikes
34
4 days ago

Right? This subreddit is actually one of the weirdest, cringiest places on reddit as a whole.

dragonphlegm
14
4 days ago

Epic Gamers trying to save Paris 😎

MrXwiix
3
4 days ago

Yeah.. the post has 50k+ upvotes already. How 50k people are that stupid to actually think a game is important to anything history related is beyond me...

They based off their game from actual, way more detailed scans and records in the first place

magicfultonride
234
4 days ago

Lol you're like 12, right? A game recreation takes huge amounts of artistic license and has nowhere near the resolution or attention to detail to be considered a preservation.

elzmuda
43
4 days ago

Yeah if this isn’t satire it is incredibly naive

c3p-bro
12
4 days ago

Why are you oppressing gamers like that

Salty_Limes
7
4 days ago

Or some of the most ridiculous karmawhoring I've seen in awhile.

Bagenholt
233
4 days ago

Most ridiculous statement of 2019 goes to!

addfase
56
4 days ago

Broseph, this is r/gaming every week.

KILLER8996
20
4 days ago

Needs more

My house burned down recently which reminded me of the Notre Dame, so I rummaged through the wreckage to find my 6 month old’s charred dead body playing Xbox. It was then that I decided to boot up my assassins creed (with my gamer wife) and marvel at the only preserved recreation of Notre Dame left in the world.

Koreanjesus4545
4
4 days ago

And right after the doctor called, you both have cancer.

1029edjas
203
4 days ago

Jesus Christ. This is the most pandering, karma whoring post I've ever seen on this sub and that is saying a lot.

not_enough_booze
203
4 days ago

False. If the cathedral burns down (which it hasn't), this quarter-scale video game representation of it will not be "important historical preservation."

What universe are you people living in?

shreddedking
55
4 days ago

op lives in "milk some karma like a greasy fuck" universe

ICanTrollToo
8
4 days ago

Yes, reddit is the website we are all currently on.

Rum_Smuggling_Shaman
55
4 days ago

The one where they aren't old enough to have a drivers license.

dawiz2016
162
4 days ago

Unfortunately, the inside representation is extremely lousy, so no, Assassin’s Creed is not going to be important now.

SuperNerd6527
150
4 days ago

No the fuck it isn't

spuds151
129
4 days ago

So true, and so sad what's happening.

mcmanybucks
40
4 days ago

What am I missing?

opieonekenopi
140
4 days ago

It’s on fire. And not a small one but a rather large fire.

equili92
78
4 days ago

Notre Dame is curently burning down

must-be-aliens
23
4 days ago

Burning down

LilBimBam
14
4 days ago

Burning down

AeliusJS
14
4 days ago

Notre Dame is currently burning down

itsjustme1505
31
4 days ago

Mon fair madame

Greenjuice_
35
4 days ago

There was a fire in the Notre Dame. A lot of damage. Part of it collapsed.

Noggin-a-Floggin
3
4 days ago

The spire and the roof have been lost but the firefighters were able to save the rest including the two iconic bell towers.

It can be rebuilt but some of the original architecture is lost.

NewAddendum4
13
4 days ago

Notre Dame is burning

nikktheconqueerer
9
4 days ago
braedizzle
29
4 days ago

Not true. At all.

nitr0zeus133
135
4 days ago

Christ, the karma farmers are already taking advantage.

Also yeah I’m sure when it’s restored they’ll put a copy of AC in the archives /s

ZipperSnail
132
4 days ago

I’m sure no one has pictures of the inside of the cathedral. Thankfully the restoration team can go to a video game.

Shakespearean_Rumba
129
4 days ago

Oh for fuck's sake, let's not pretend like Assassin's Creed is somehow "historical preservation."

magicfultonride
32
4 days ago

GaMEs ArE hIsTOriCAl ArCHivEs

chadbrochilldood
127
4 days ago

Not really? I’m sure there are billions of photos and videos haha

BackdoorSlider25
100
4 days ago

But, has it though?

Leanador
13
4 days ago

Nah

csgraber
89
4 days ago

Said no one ever

Armchair_Martian
69
4 days ago

lame ass karma whoring bullshit is what this is.

DotA__2
10
4 days ago

I've taken to blocking them when they present themselves.

jihadidas_
5
4 days ago

Pretty much describes the majority of posts on this sub.

Coley_D
65
4 days ago

That's a bit of a stretch lol

exboi
8
4 days ago

A bit?

FuCuck
66
4 days ago

fuck off

VictorasLux
61
4 days ago

We have a much better mapping of the cathedral thanks to the work of prof. Andrew Tallon (https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/06/150622-andrew-tallon-notre-dame-cathedral-laser-scan-art-history-medieval-gothic/).

Hopefully we’ll never have to rely on the Ubi scans.

hoverhuskyy
53
4 days ago

Hum...no

neverhadlambchops
39
4 days ago

I think this is more than a little aggrandizing of a mediocre game franchise. It's not like thousands of documents and photos already capture Notre Dame's cathedral more accurately... its one of the most famous locations on Earth, it's not like some would be future mystery.

GontantutheGranger
36
4 days ago

“That’s a no from me dawg” -Randy Jackson

dedfrmthneckup
32
4 days ago

No it fucking hasn’t you nerds

Zoppello
33
4 days ago
Bearo-Chickenooie
30
4 days ago

No it has not.

rafferty85
28
4 days ago

Another embarrassing false claim from /gaming.

SpruceKetchup
30
4 days ago

Oh fuck off

McManus26
34
4 days ago

I honestly pity you if the only way you can see and relate importants events such as these is through the spectrum of video games.

As a Parisian myself it kinda sickens me. I have many memories of this place and its an important part of my history. I thought of a lot of things while I watched it burn for hours, but oddly enough, a video game I played 5 years ago was not one of them.

technicolordreams
33
4 days ago

This seems like karma profiting off of a disaster...

Shaevar
10
4 days ago

That's because it is karma profiting off of a disaster.

Manitoba-Cigarettes
30
4 days ago

Lol, Jesus Christ reddit... you can't possibly believe a video game is the best and only documentation of such a historic landmark, can you?

ShadowzI
7
4 days ago

There are other ways?

Name one

Trick question you can't /S

FightingOreo
27
4 days ago

I don't care how good your video game is, it doesn't come fucking close to the Notre Dame. You are a fool.

Beforemath
25
4 days ago

Yeah because the only place this building is recreated is in Assassins creed 🙄

Domer2012
16
4 days ago

I doubt there are countless drawings, diagrams, and accounts of the architecture over the last several centuries. I’m sure this intentionally inaccurate recreation in Assassin’s Creed will be deemed “important” by historians and architectures alike for the rest of time.

Doesnt_Draw_Anything
24
4 days ago

Gotta get in on that karma, huh?

LarryLegend1836
22
4 days ago

This very well could be the post that gets me off reddit lol this is peak fucking stupidity.

nitr0zeus133
5
4 days ago

OPs dumbassery is astounding. He seems to think when/if they restore the cathedral, they’ll refer to AC.

E_blanc
20
4 days ago

This post is beyond stupid, feels like it was made by an actual child with no scope of the real world.

pandas795
20
4 days ago

Are you fucking kidding me r/gaming? 42k points for this circlejerk?

MAZZ31
18
4 days ago

It isn’t a piece of historical preservation - rather, a representation of the Notre Dame. The rest of Assassin’s Creed cannot be considered historical preservation by any means, so why is this?

Remember: Ceci n’est pas une pipe.

HerbFarts79
20
4 days ago

Its not an important piece of historical preservation you fucking dimwit. Its a video game. I hate gamers.

markymarkfro
7
4 days ago

This is why I unsubscribed to r/gaming

If they're going to rebuild it, they're not going to follow some shitty video game, they've got hard drives with blueprints and data on the building to use

Captainbuttman
18
4 days ago

Is there a gamercringe subreddit? Because this is perfect for that.

dustinm29
15
4 days ago

Wait what’s going on?

saethone
31
4 days ago

notre dame is burning

ThinkingInfestation
15
4 days ago
FerdchenSeep
12
4 days ago

Notre Dame is on huge fire.

didishavemyballs4dis
3
4 days ago

Not much. What's going on with you?

Mennerheim
14
4 days ago

What an awful clickbaity title. As if assassins fucking creed is the ‘only historical record’.

cyb3rstrike
13
4 days ago

r/gaming: "notre dame in video game because it's topical"

all 25k+ upvoters: "tHiS iS qUaLitY cOnTeNt"

lmaousa
13
4 days ago

No it hasn't my God shut the fuck up I hate you moronic chodes

Bmandk
13
4 days ago

I'm certain there are other 3D models of the Notre Dame somewhere in the world, with higher quality as well. AC: Unity is a game, and as such there are limitations as to how high quality the model can have to make sure the game runs smoothly.

Itamaki_Chugs_Dick
10
4 days ago

Counterpoint: No, it isn't.

dineapplepick
13
4 days ago

This is peak /r/gaming LMAO

The amount of upvotes this got is the cherry on top. What a ridiculous stretch. Like this is legitimately cringeworthy. It amazes me that this many people on Reddit actually bought into this karmagrab.

basob97
10
4 days ago

It's burned down before. It's been restored. It'll be restored again

Empyrealist
10
4 days ago

For all you gamers out there that haven't seen Notre Dame IRL, I just want to tell you that the size perspective is off in this photo. The church is larger than what it appears to be in this photo. All jokes aside; nothing digital can compare to the absolute majesty of walking into a cathedral such as Notre Dame.

CaptainObvious_1
9
4 days ago

OP this post is so pathetic.

FBPizza
10
4 days ago

Stop

TofuButtocks
10
4 days ago

Um nope not really

PlexasAideron
10
4 days ago

Lol no, its rather irrelevant tbh. There are thousands of high resolution photos of the whole thing, they can probably rebuild it completely from those photos alone.

Sagacious_Sophist
10
4 days ago

No.

No, it hasn't.

Mira_22
9
4 days ago

People acting like they can't rebuild the damage Lmao

SurelyFurious
8
4 days ago

Or, there are these things called photographs .

99% of the world won't refer to a random ass video game's recreation to remember what it looked like. Don't be naive

Spokker
10
4 days ago

Jesus Christ a horrible thing happened. Can any part of Reddit refrain from circle jerking over it?

The building is largely saved and the destroyed portions will be rebuilt just as it has several times before.

Bob_Bobinson
7
4 days ago

Me, an idiot: there's decades of pictures, centuries of paintings, thousands of floor plans, 3D models, and archived data to rebuild the cathedral

You, an intellectual: lol what if we just used a video game tho

Sp1nmill
7
4 days ago

Sure my guy! Andrew Tallon and his extensive academic mapping of the cathedral is just fluff! An off-scale, partial recreation by Ubisoft is where it's at!

didipunk006
6
4 days ago

You have my vote for retardest post of the year.

StripedTiger711
6
4 days ago
Spokker
5
4 days ago

This is like, "Disney's Hunchback of Notre Dame has just become an important record of the real Notre Dame" but no movie fan is stupid enough to say something so ridiculous.

liquidsahelanthropus
6
4 days ago

No it didn’t lol

Clown_5
5
4 days ago

Very sad to lose this icon.

kurosen
3
4 days ago

Early as it is, the Ministry of Culture is already planning to assess the damage and restore it once the dust settles (no pun intended).

evenios
6
4 days ago

they should add a historic mode update thingy to it like the newer games it could be smaller in scope just centered around the cathedral area.

TrueKingSkyPiercer
3
4 days ago

With VR

ballistic90
6
4 days ago

glitches through the floor "Uhhh, the real one had problens with that too."

Diplomarmus
7
4 days ago

Too bad the game is trash.

local_jewish_priest
6
4 days ago

This is the worst, most karma whorish post I’ve ever seen.

TheFormidableGiant
7
4 days ago

‘Important’

Imperator-Solis
5
4 days ago

no it hasnt

Roy55514
6
4 days ago

Yes, because no one has ever taken pictures of it in case something happens, no architect has ever studied it, and everyone will obviously turn to a fucking video game to restore it.

coldfurify
5
4 days ago
KayJax1117
6
4 days ago

overreaction

MastaMayne
6
4 days ago

Lmfao really?

ChrisBabyYea
6
4 days ago

LOL, no.

FrostByte122
5
4 days ago

This is the dumbest shit.

RussianManBearPig
4
4 days ago

I’m pretty sure the photos I have of the inside from when my family went years and years and years ago are more of an important piece of historical preservation as it’s actually from the inside of Notre Dame, not a video game.

DrDilatory
4
4 days ago

No it hasn't lmao

Did you think somehow that was the only virtual depiction of what it looked like inside?

potato_bus
6
4 days ago

This is the stupidest fucking post I've seen in a while

JustJeneius
5
4 days ago

No no no r/gaming, you can't just shit on this game for years and then post something like this.

coolguybennyk
5
4 days ago

i thought it was going to link to an article about how the makers of AC scanned the entire cathedral for maximum accuracy or something, this is just Karma whoring.

the_dinks
5
4 days ago

this has to be one of the dumbest things to get upvoted on this subreddit

jigsawduckpuzzle
6
4 days ago

I'm embarrassed that I play video games.

Jbucks32
4
4 days ago

If the Declaration of Independence ever gets destroyed at least we have National Treasure and Fallout 3 to remember it by. God bless Nick Cage and Bethesda.

EMF_SouthDublin
4
4 days ago

Fuck off with this shit. This subreddit has become a parody of itself.

downvote-if-butthurt
4
4 days ago

Plus, you can burn this version down, at many times as you'd like.

psyopsono
4
4 days ago

This is some truly goofy shit, come on man.

Loopycopyright
4
4 days ago

No it hasn't

PabloTheGod
4
4 days ago

No...it hasn't.

SemperScrotus
3
4 days ago

An important piece of historical preservation? 🙄 You people really need to get out more.

Fantasy_masterMC
4
4 days ago

That, and the models created by the laserscanning done by a historian a few years ago.

KyraSellers
4
4 days ago

It really hasn't. It's not like we don't have pictures, books on it.

textguy3
4
4 days ago

Wow this is a dumb post even by r/gaming standards. Gamers think they are helping the world or some shit.

mycousinvinny99
3
4 days ago

It’s not like there aren’t MILLIONS of fucking pictures of it.

R/getoutside

ArcarosTheTroll
3
4 days ago

You just wanted karma.

DaneboJones
4
4 days ago

Has it really, or is reddit just circle jerking itself?

WhenIDecide
5
4 days ago

I like videogames as much as the next guy but no it didn’t

homeboy422
2
4 days ago

I doubt that they will use Assassin's Creed for reference as an "important piece of historical preservations." Only gamers on reddit have that kind of hubris.

elboltonero
4
4 days ago

This is the most self-masturbatory /r/gaming thread ever.

Yousuckaterrything
5
4 days ago

No. It hasn't.

Alauer16
3
4 days ago

Came here to say the exact same thing.

Tumblrrito
4
4 days ago

It’s a shame it’s only been preserved with a frame rate of only 15 FPS.

NDubbaYa
4
4 days ago

No it isn't for reasons that should be painfully obvious.

Gamers are unironically the worst.

garbanzoboy
4
4 days ago

Lol this is one of the dumbest posts I've ever seen on Reddit

I'm sure 500 years from now, historians wanting to learn about Notre Dame Cathedral will be firing up their old dusty Xbox to play Assassin's Creed 😂

goilergo
4
4 days ago

This is the dumbest thing I've read in a while

Embershift
4
4 days ago

Yeah this post is ridiculous... Assassins creed unity’s model of the Notre dame is not now an important piece of historical preservation

triptodisneyland2017
3
4 days ago

Imagine how pathetic you'd have to be that you think about video games when a tragic event occurs.

r977
4
4 days ago

This is so dumb

awkristensen
4
4 days ago

Not really lol

majeufoe45
4
4 days ago

Lol nothing is in proportion in this image

Quit jerking off

outsanity_haha
5
4 days ago

Who upvotes this shit LOL

Calibruh
4
4 days ago

Hahaha, no it hasn't.

TheL1oness
4
4 days ago
sham-kachow
3
4 days ago

this spits in the face of hard working historians, workers, architects, cartographers etc. which do REAL preservation work

MF_Croom
5
4 days ago

This is one of the cringiest things I’ve ever seen on this subreddit. It’s honestly amazing that 50k said “Yes, I agree” to this blatantly not true, mastutbatory post

Knalraap
4
4 days ago

This is honestly the dumbest thing I've read all day, how 58k people agreed with this is fucking mind-boggling.

mephizto85
1
4 days ago

That's pretty much the only thing that wretched game is good for

mikepictor
2
4 days ago

I thought it was pretty fun

Speech500
3
4 days ago

Unfortunately, the insides of the Cathedral were subject to heavy copyrights, so AC Unity doesn't actually show us what the inside was like, though it is close.

Also, the core structure was saved and Macron said they would rebuild it, so it should return.

tip_of_the_hat_sir
3
4 days ago

I’m sure there’s other pictures dude.

MRiley84
2
4 days ago

I just finished playing this game yesterday. The outside of the building looks pretty spot on, but I doubt the inside was very close.

Also, for anyone considering it, I recommend playing the game. The movement can be quite clunky/buggy and it has about twice as many collectibles as it should have for the size of its story, but it was pretty fun nonetheless. Even the side missions were pretty fun, and the murder mysteries were an interesting new feature.

DareDiablo
3
4 days ago

I wonder if the value of the game will go up from $1.99 now.

Animated_post
3
4 days ago

Jesus Christ reddit

fskoti
3
4 days ago

Pretty sure they had it mapped out outside of a videogame, for fuck's sake.

RiskBiscuit
3
4 days ago

Fuuuuuck oooooffffff

Viewtiful_Z
3
4 days ago

Pictures suddenly stopped existing also.

Roxxorsmash
3
4 days ago

Okay but where's the sexy cosplay? How is this r/gaming?

braedizzle
3
4 days ago

No, it hasn’t.

Sheeirun
3
4 days ago

You guys know that its still there right? It didnt burn down. Everyone is blowing this waaaaaaaaaaay out of proportion

chief2019
2
4 days ago

Please help me hijack this thread, the game for copywrite reasons doesn't have an accurate depiction of the windows I hope for the sake of historical preservation we can somehow bring together the relevant parties to get the windows update to the actual designs

minin71
3
4 days ago

Y'all are overreacting as usual

yomama629
3
4 days ago

Lmao are you fucking serious

Delete this post this is some god-level nephewing

johnyeros
3
4 days ago

Lame. No. Stop riding the karma train.

MattyWestside
3
4 days ago

20 bucks says they won't even consider this when restoring the cathedral. People are so fucking stupid.

cptderekwildstar
3
4 days ago

no, it really hasnt. there have been vr sim tours of notre dame for quite some time,

christopher_1201
3
4 days ago

As soon as I seen the news of the Notre Dame on fire, my thirst thought was Assassin's Creed Unity.

guy121
3
4 days ago

Won't they just rebuild it from looking at the thousands of pictures taken by professional photographers?

Dman0323
3
4 days ago

lmao the only post I've ever seen that didn't call unity a piece of shit

dezudayo
3
4 days ago

It's just a fucking French ninja game Jesus Christ.

jackto
3
4 days ago

are you fucking kidding me

maschmidt9193
4
4 days ago

this is just fucking sad. must you really put an actual real life tragedy through the lens of a video game who altered the setting to avoid legal troubles

mechanical_carrot
3
4 days ago

No it hasn't.

PoooopFTW
3
4 days ago

gtfo

mossyanus
3
4 days ago

i’ve killed so many people in that building

Macinsocks
3
4 days ago

No it isn't.

There are better 3d scans and records of the building

Nigelwethers
3
4 days ago

Ugh don't break an arm jerking yourself off. Millions of people take pictures of Notre Dame every year.

JokezOnYou3
3
4 days ago

This post is so utterly stupid

Mom_Lover123
3
4 days ago

Who the fuck upvotes this shit?

bogoboy420
3
4 days ago

What a disrespectful stupid thing to say

Hurgablurg
3
4 days ago

There are several full scans of Notre Dame.

Assassins Creed will contribute nothing, much as gamers contribute nothing.

Dafinition
3
4 days ago

Bullshit. There are much more detailed scans of the building.

GiantMastodon
3
4 days ago

Actual blatant karmawhoring, what else to expect from r/gaming?