Car carrying trailer stalls on train tracks yesterday in El Paso, 8-12-2019
24607 upvotes
1324 comments
analbumclub
1 week ago
Car carrying trailer stalls on train tracks yesterday in El Paso, 8-12-2019
Preceptual
3073
1 week ago

Sometimes you forget how big trains actually are, and then you see something like this. That car just bounced off the train like a little toy.

DaleDimmaDone
1032
1 week ago

r/absoluteunits

But really, watching the train carry on through like it just hit a fluffy snow drift is insane. That trailer went flying

probablyuntrue
420
1 week ago

thicc af train comin thru choo choo

ReflexEight
386
1 week ago

Looks like a regular train to me.

THIS is a thicc af train, sweety.

probablyuntrue
174
1 week ago

Oh no, oh God no

TransformerTanooki
69
1 week ago

You know you wanna dive in head first and have them call you Phil Makrevice.

VIRGIL_ARCHIEAL
44
1 week ago

I dont even know what you said, but I know it wasn't supposed to be said in english.

MrMcgruder
8
1 week ago

And his buddy Phil McCracken

pocketdare
8
1 week ago

Don't forget Phillip McCavity

HardDrizzle
25
1 week ago

I clicked. I knew better but I clicked anyway.

i-like-things-shiny
3
1 week ago

I as well. Choo choo!

dragan_
16
1 week ago

Was expecting the WWII german railgun, but ok.

DakkaJack
5
1 week ago

That poor, poor kiddo...

Stardrive450
3
1 week ago

Oh for fucks sake, have an upvote and know that I give it to you with disdain

muggsybeans
3
1 week ago
ArcAngel071
2
1 week ago
YourFairyGodmother
2
1 week ago

Risky click of the day

snarkpowered
2
1 week ago

You were at 68 upvotes. But I had couldn’t summon the will to upvote, thus you go back to 67.

--cheese--
29
1 week ago

Is there a /r/carsfuckingcars but for trains?

edit: there is now

DaleDimmaDone
11
1 week ago

Gang gang

MrMelon03
12
1 week ago
chin_waghing
2
1 week ago

wanted it to be a r/subsifellfor but it wasn’t

cheeerioos
2
1 week ago

Wait... what? Third post in r/carsfuckingcars is one of the weirdest things I’ve seen on Reddit in a while. (Yes, I clearly don’t browse the strangest subs.)

NSFW

OneMustAdjust
2
1 week ago

Subbed

balents
12
1 week ago

Would've thought I'd see this comment a lot higher. Seriously, what a great name for a sub.

Ibanez_85
6
1 week ago

You should see a train hit a deer.

DaleDimmaDone
15
1 week ago

No thank you

themoochiest
8
1 week ago

https://youtu.be/diOCSE5uLUE

1 minute mark for the curious.

SgtSweatySac
3
1 week ago

SHLORP!

Goodbye, deer friend

SCP-Agent-Arad
3
1 week ago

There’s not much that could stop a fully loaded freight train in a short distance. You’d need a block of steel the size of a mountain.

DoesNotLiveInRoseway
2
1 week ago

Or Hancock

MrWoohoo
3
1 week ago
Thisiscliff
2
1 week ago

Great sub thanks haha

kpeterson159
2
1 week ago

Those trailers weigh between 15k-20k pounds. And it BOUNCED

SaltySeaman
2
1 week ago

Why the fuck the engineer keep blaring the horn way after the fact? Damage been done.

DaleDimmaDone
3
1 week ago

Clear the area? I’m not too sure. I think they’re supposed to hit a button and run into the next room as the train conductor. Maybe it just blares the horn on auto? Not sure

SaltySeaman
2
1 week ago

Haha I imagine him diving into the next room behind the control rooom. Or whatever they call it in train engines.

Achadel
2
1 week ago

r/bitchimatrain *

Weight wise a loaded freight train hitting your car is about the same as your car hitting a soda can.

hamburgersocks
2
1 week ago

And (assuming no injuries) that was kinda a little /r/oddlysatisfying

I hate cars, fite me.

Osiris32
2
1 week ago

Train don't give a FUCK.

Train don't ever give a fuck.

sbowesuk
166
1 week ago

When you factor in how much trains are often pulling, cars are like toys by comparison. It's basically like being hit by an oil tanker.

ClaudeSmoot
132
1 week ago

Train safety guy who came to our Driver's Ed class said it was the equivalent of a car running over an aluminum can. I did not check his math though, so someone might want to get on that. At the least it sounds impressive.

mtranda
207
1 week ago

According to this Yahoo answers thread it's 3000 to 8000 tonnes. Let's average to 5500 tonnes. A car weighs about 1.4 tonnes (avg). An empty aluminium can weighs about 16g.

So a train weighs about as much as roughly 4000 cars, while a car weighs about as much as roughly 90,000 cans.

If we are to use full cans, however, (346g - 330ml(g) + 16g), a car weighs as much as about... 4000 cars. Well, colour me surprised.

SCP-Agent-Arad
84
1 week ago

Freight trains can weight significantly more than 8000 tones, though. Like more than double that. 8000 might be closer to the average, since the train can weight closer to 20,000.

Pake1000
53
1 week ago

a car weighs as much as about... 4000 cars.

You have a small mistake there.

meltingdiamond
7
1 week ago

No, the car collapse into a black hole. The math is very clear.

Hadtarespond
30
1 week ago

Obligatory r/theydidthemath

Sengura
19
1 week ago

Larger freight trains can weigh twice that.

commie_heathen
3
1 week ago

Yeah that seems like a really low estimate

commie_heathen
7
1 week ago

I don't think that's heavy enough

roxy_blah
2
1 week ago

Where I am we average anywhere from 15000 to 30000 tons depending on commodity and direction. Mixed manifest you're looking at 11000 to 19000 (depending on locomotives and if it's set up with remote power) and bulk is 15000 to 30000 (again depending on locomotives).

Either way, they don't stop easy. Last winter one of the larger trains took over a mile to stop after hitting a loader that stopped on the tracks.

ChornWork2
90
1 week ago

per pdf below, typical loaded freight train (100 cars + 2 locomotives) is 14600 gross tons. An SUV is ~2 gross tons, or ~4400 lbs. An (empty) aluminum can weighs 15g or 0.033 lbs

14600/2 = 7,300x

4400/0.033 = 133,333x

BUT, add the 375mL of contents if full can, you get 390g or 0.86lbs.

4400/0.86 = 5,116x

I rate your safety guy as mostly true, but potentially misleading depending one's view of whether was suggesting a full or empty can.

https://web.engr.uky.edu/~jrose/papers/REES%202012%20Introduction.pdf

SlapMyCHOP
16
1 week ago

If you are an aluminum can, I dont think it much matters if you are full or empty if you are hit by a car in practice. Probably an apt analogy

Tossinoff
5
1 week ago

You work at Snopes?

ChornWork2
12
1 week ago

some people are compulsive gamblers, I am a compulsive fact checker.

well, I also have a bit of a gambling problem if i find myself in a casino. but never really tempted to go, just if someone's stag or whatever takes me there...

sharpestoolinshed
9
1 week ago

Dude stop following other people’s deer, problem fixed.

restlessmonkey
3
1 week ago

The can is always full. Just depends on what you are measuring.

Aethermancer
2
1 week ago

Vacuum?

restlessmonkey
3
1 week ago

Would it not be full of a vacuum?

Isotopian
3
1 week ago

In the same sense that a full can is empty of void, yes.

Warhawk2052
2
1 week ago

For example a wheel for a train weighs about 2,500 pounds, which is close to the car weight alone

leglesslegolegolas
9
1 week ago

A typical freight car weighs 30 tons empty, and can carry another 100 tons loaded for 130 total tons per loaded car. So a typical over the road long haul freight train can weigh anywhere from 3,000 tons to 18,000 tons or more depending on the number of cars in the train. Let's just call it an average of 15,000 tons because it makes the math easier.

It takes about 30 aluminum cans to make a pound. So about 60,000 cans in a ton. An average small car weighs about 3,000 pounds, or 1.5 tons. 1.5 x 60,000 = 90,000. So that means a car weighs about 90,000 times as much as an aluminum can.

If the train weighs 15,000 tons and the car weighs 1.5 tons that means the train weighs 10,000 times as much as the car.

Car to can ratio: 90,000
Train to car ratio: 10,000

So train safety guy was off by almost an order of magnitude. Still sounds impressive though.

handsomechandler
3
1 week ago

it's like a car versus 9 cans then. not the worst comparision.

notatree
7
1 week ago

Disregarding the sometimes 5 million pus tons of cargo behind the train, a locomotive itself can weigh upward of 300 tons

Your average truck pulls 40 tons. 60 plus tons is considered a heavy truck

Your car is nothing to a moving train

Edit: heaviest train haul was just under 100,000 tonnes so not 5 million. But that was over 220 million pounds

devandroid99
3
1 week ago

5 million tons of cargo? Are you sure about that? Because the largest ever ship in the world weighed less than a million metric tonnes fully loaded.

notatree
5
1 week ago

Nope, further reading had the heaviest train hauling just under 100,000 tonnes.

So pounds yea not tonnes.

Sengura
2
1 week ago

Freight trains can weigh almost 20,000 tons. That's like 11,000 times more than an average car.

Just to give a comparison as to how much that is; an average car (~3500 lbs) weighs about 22 times more than an average human (160 lbs).

Accujack
2
1 week ago

Actually, a big oil tanker can weigh much more than a heavy train (about 20,000 tons) weighs even when it's empty. The ships themselves weigh easily over 100,000 tons.

An ultra large crude carrier fully loaded with cargo can mass over 550,000 metric tons.

WhatImKnownAs
73
1 week ago

/r/BitchImATrain (Yes, it's already posted there.)

InedibleSolutions
41
1 week ago

Hijacking the top comment in hopes someone sees this: in the US if you or someone is stalled on a train crossing, call 911. Try your best to describe where you are at.

IF IT IS SAFE, AND ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE TRACKS YOU ARE ON look for a blue identification sign on the crossing guards or on the silver electrical box near the crossing guards. This series of numbers and letters will identify exactly which crossing the stalled car is on. You can pass that info onto the 911 operator, and they can then communicate it to the proper authorities.

Do not cross the tracks. Do not get close if the train is close. Do not attempt to move your car. Just GTFO and get some distance on foot.

ElectricShaman43
26
1 week ago

Take it a step further. Most crossing ID tags have a phone number that can put you in touch with the pertinent railroad superintendent or dispatcher. If you give said person the crossing ID number, they can stop all traffic until the crossing is cleared.

roxy_blah
15
1 week ago

Do this. That number on the pole is a hot line and will get you to dispatch immediately. Your local 911 might have to call a few contacts who may or may not be able to pick up the phone immediately depending on how busy they are.

biggsteve81
15
1 week ago

You are better off calling the phone number on the blue sign than calling 911. It takes 1 step out of the process of stopping the trains.

TheUltimateSalesman
30
1 week ago

Think about the amount of energy it takes to get the train moving. Think about how heavy all that stuff is that it's pulling. And now get in the way.

justin_memer
12
1 week ago

I was reading it only takes like 400hp to get it moving, since the friction is very low on train cars.

TheUltimateSalesman
14
1 week ago

Wouldn't that depend on how many cars there are? Apparenlty they are 4300hp https://www.answers.com/Q/How_much_horsepower_does_a_freight_train_have and a train is 15k-20k tons

boringdude00
23
1 week ago

Train physics are weird, a combination of electric motors and steel-on-steel we're not used to thinking about in a world of gasoline motors and asphalt. To simplify it a bit, at low speeds an electric motor generates a ridiculous amount of tractive effort, but at high speeds that amount greatly diminishes. So a low horsepower locomotive can start a comically heavy train moving, but can't speed it up by itself so it'll just creep along a few miiles per hour unless you add more power..

dwhite21787
6
1 week ago

Having grown up with GP30's and 35's, when the SD60MAC's and 70MAC's showed how AC traction motors could pull the money out of a scotsman's purse - modern locos can lay down an insane amount of power.

NouberNou
17
1 week ago

Also that is per locomotive. Up in the Cascades I've easily seen trains with up to 8 engines on them, so well over 20,000hp.

Here is a photo I took of one waiting to head into the Cascade Tunnel with 9 GE Dash 9-44CW, each at 4400hp, which brings the total consist to just under 40khp.

C4Aries
11
1 week ago

Railroader here, when you see that many locomotives many of them won't be running, probably only 3 are on line with another one or two running at the very rear of the whole train, the rest are just in transit.

Parrelium
7
1 week ago

Agreed. Putting that many online would stress the shit out of the track, not to mention pull out drawbars at the front of the train.

Most we’re allowed is 24 axles powered if they’re DC or 18 with AC or a mix.

If they need more power than that(never happens) they’ve got to run DP.

diego_6969
2
1 week ago

At UP we're allowed between 36 and 44 EPA on the head end depending on the timetable and grade. With the way were running trains now that's always maxed out to the nuts including DPUs.

C4Aries
3
1 week ago

Going east over a pass with no DP? Im guessing it was empty. We normally only move empty trains over the passes (I work in the northwest). But hey I could be wrong.

NouberNou
3
1 week ago

Good point. Yea no DP. Just a lot of head end power.

xnmw
4
1 week ago

And uphill grades are a thing

alwndhs
2
1 week ago

Modern trains can handle 4 degree grade, if it can't be avoided. Any grade is terrible, due to the low power to weight ratio.

Here is a video by James may https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KbUsKWbOqUU

merreborn
2
1 week ago

The braking distance on a train traveling at >50mph is roughly a mile. So if the conductor spots a car on the tracks 500 yards away, it's already far too late to prevent collision

Cranky_Windlass
26
1 week ago

Choo Choo, Motherfucker!

Sneaker_Freaker_1
18
1 week ago

Shits dense

YerDasWilly
8
1 week ago

Absolute tank

MrRonObvious
10
1 week ago

A train hitting a car is like your car hitting a soda can.

CelestialChicken
8
1 week ago

That and the train had probably already been breaking for 20-30 seconds

breakone9r
19
1 week ago

I doubt that. It never broke at all.

RedSkyBlackDream
2
1 week ago

Yes it did. Especially seeing how the horn on the train was going for that long. They applied the brakes but since it takes so long to come to a complete stop, it seemed as if it didn't slow at all.

breakone9r
16
1 week ago

I never said it wasn't braking or never braked. I said it wasn't BROKEN. A break is not a brake.

Russ1642
14
1 week ago

Whoosh of the year.

KPortable
2
1 week ago

It was a pun.

Break vs brake

CeleryStickBeating
3
1 week ago

Is a callout on a typo really a pun?

KPortable
2
1 week ago

Close enough, I guess.

l_00_l
5
1 week ago

It was just a Prius tho.

MangoesOfMordor
6
1 week ago

Priuses aren't any lighter than other cars.

timbasimba
2
1 week ago

I mean, it was a Prius.

ccvgreg
2
1 week ago

That just makes those videos where people get clipped by a train and survive even more incredible.

Bixybicks
2
1 week ago

F=ma. Some big M

FatMan832
2
1 week ago

Wasn't even going that fast. Little prius went flying!

PoopMobile9000
2
1 week ago

Paging r/gamephysics

Like if I saw that exact thing in GTA I’d think it was fake and lame

sk_2013
2
1 week ago

I remember seeing one of these videos posted a while back, and one of the top reddit comments was "I like how the train driver didn't even try to slow down."

I'm pretty sure my desk still has an imprint of my forehead from that day.

imbrownbutwhite
2
1 week ago

As someone who worked on trains, can confirm. You get in the cab and open a window and see how far above the ground you are. It’s nuts.

TeaTimeNinja
1268
1 week ago

Wow, the camera man didn't violently jolt the camera at the crucial moment of impact. What a breath of fresh air.

84ndn
332
1 week ago
WildVelociraptor
12
1 week ago

No seriously can I buy this person a beer because this was great. I love how the Prius landed perfectly on that control box thingy and smashed it too.

Also I'd imagine no one got hurt so all around great time

duramax08
55
1 week ago

Nor lose their damn mind.

Blad514
59
1 week ago

“Bruh! Bruh!! BRUUUHHHHHH!!!”

S-r-ex
49
1 week ago

OHMAGAWD! OHMAGAWD! OH MAH GAAAWD!!!!*

rock-my-socks
24
1 week ago

Someone call 911! CALL 911!!!

Khristoffer
4
1 week ago

So y’all don’t want people to react when sum happens? Reddit really some psychopaths

IWantToBeTheBoshy
6
1 week ago

"Shit better suppress my own experience so some people can watch this quietly at work later"

Khristoffer
2
1 week ago

Yeah who got time to think bout that when some fuck shit happens, I be yellin “OH SHIT” Right away

mike_b_nimble
422
1 week ago

You jest, but I am dealing with a situation right now where a $170K custom built machine was totaled in transit to the customer. It will take us a year to build a new one.

vinnyfunface
422
1 week ago

Oh no. Mike_b_quick!!!

NedryOS
305
1 week ago

Mike's_boss_must've_shit_a_god_damned_brick

LlamaramaDingdong86
88
1 week ago

Mike_sat_on_a_candlestick

IanMullins13
48
1 week ago

Fire_is_mikes_only_friend

DiggerGuy68
28
1 week ago

and_as_I_watched_Mike_on_the_stage

phyzzmat
9
1 week ago

his_hands_were_clenched_in_fists_of_rage

MelodicSasquatch
3
1 week ago

And_as_I_watched_mike_on_the_stage

Downvotes_catpics
112
1 week ago

Happened to me when I worked for a furniture factory. An entire shipping container fell off the ship enroute to Asia. I (and a dozen others) worked 12 on, 12 off for like 8 weeks rebuilding the order. The insurance payout doesn't make the goods reappear. 🙁

NedryOS
21
1 week ago

Job Security.

Downvotes_catpics
45
1 week ago

Quite the opposite. It pushed out other orders by weeks. Angered customers. I'm certain we lost orders due to the extended lead times.

TheTartanDervish
24
1 week ago

Please accept my condolences. One of my friends had a shipping container fall off but it was mostly replaceable and there was insurance... I can't imagine the phone call to the customer and all the paperwork this is going to cause for you, I hope everything works out.

ChineseMeatCleaver
4
1 week ago

Kinda makes me wonder how many containers full of shit are at the bottom of the ocean

squigs
7
1 week ago

This article gives numbers. Around 1400 a year. So we're looking at 10s of thousands after a few decades of containerisation.

On the whole though this is pretty low risk. Over 100 million containers are shipped per year.

WearingMyFleece
3
1 week ago

Don't containers mostly float just under the waterline causing collisions with ships?

ricobirch
10
1 week ago

We once had one of our aircraft being trucked hit a highway overpass at 70MPH.

Turned a pretty straightforward repair into a total loss.

lottus4
7
1 week ago

What was the machinery for

Solkre
4
1 week ago

Stopping trains.

8jac0b88
2
1 week ago

What kind of machine? Are you allowed to share pictures?

PMmedemtitays
2
1 week ago

MacBook?

SuperC142
2
1 week ago

Apple display bracket.

13speed
2
1 week ago

By what means was it shipped?

mike_b_nimble
3
1 week ago

It was truck-mounted. The chassis had a defect and caught fire in transit. It was a total loss.

uvronac
2
1 week ago

What kind of machine? Will you improve on the 2nd generation design or not really becauz not much chance for field testing?

AbheekG
2
1 week ago

That's terrible to hear. I'm very curious to know what sort of machine is this. Don't divulge much but share something about it if possible please?

Jaevak
40
1 week ago

Nice

Eagles365or366
14
1 week ago

Nice

netpastor
5
1 week ago

Bien

duckssayquackquack
2
1 week ago

Niiiice

yaboiRich
2
1 week ago

Nice

LlamaramaDingdong86
33
1 week ago

That happened to me once when I ordered a cat tree from Amazon. Got a message sayinf "package delayed: train derailment." It arrived a week later in a slightly beat up box but otherwise ok.

SuperC142
5
1 week ago

I thought cats grew on bushes.

-Maxy-
2
1 week ago

and vice-versa, yes. 🤔

LlamaramaDingdong86
2
1 week ago

Different plants for different breeds.

xxfay6
4
1 week ago

I can only wonder if those that got "Package delayed: MH370" are still waiting.

dariusdetiger
32
1 week ago

"And no, your insurance doesn't cover this."

LIVERLIPS69
10
1 week ago

"And yes this is an automated response, please do not reply. Have a nice day.

hunnyflash
4
1 week ago

My dad used to build diesel trucks. They got an order once for this beautiful red truck. $125,000. It was going to be transported on a train down to LA from the Central Valley.

Well. Whoever was in charge of the transit, did not check the route properly to make sure that the train would clear (its height) all the bridges, overpasses, etc.

On the way, the train went through a tunnel or overpass, and the entire top half of the truck was scraped away. My dad's company had to call the client and inform them that their truck was demolished on the way, and that they'd replace it. It was a big loss for their small company that year.

I feel a little sorry for the truck driver specifically that was hauling this trailer. This will go on his record and it can impact his ability to get another trucking job. Hopefully his company won't fault him, but it can be tricky.

Centauri2
2
1 week ago

Totaled by transit.

MrRonObvious
485
1 week ago

Someone's getting fired.

JRHelgeson
1485
1 week ago

No kidding, that train didn’t even try to swerve.

p1um5mu991er
162
1 week ago

That conductor must've been totally off the rails!

GhostOfPluto
80
1 week ago

He was on the rails. That’s the problem.

ralph8877
34
1 week ago

He didn't have enough training. Buster Keaton, undoubtedly the strongest actor in the history of Hollywood, could stop a train in just a few feet with his bare hands. Never saw Schwarzenegger do anything like that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwEgtdctWqI

weirdal1968
7
1 week ago

Buster Keaton was a train nerd - at parties he used an American Flyer layout to deliver cocktails to guests in the pool.

lurkerofthethings
2
1 week ago

He was doing well at first, but got off track.

t1ao_official
35
1 week ago

If i could give you more upvotes and a medal i would.

XavierSimmons
3
1 week ago

Was prob texting.

oragamihawk
26
1 week ago

What were they supposed to do? Get out and push?

salgat
19
1 week ago

Assuming it stalled after he had stopped to check the tracks then accelerated to get over the tracks this is definitely not his fault.

Jaywebbs90
5
1 week ago

Depends on why he stalled.

Shawnarrhea
8
1 week ago

Not sure why you're getting downvoted.

I don't know what happened here but it's illegal for commercial vehicles to shift gears over train tracks for this very reason.

LumbermanSVO
2
1 week ago

You are getting downvoted for being correct.

Source: I used to drive trucks

Jaywebbs90
18
1 week ago

I imagine It's the Pakistan comment thats drawing a lot of downvotes more then anything.

RoutineTwo
24
1 week ago

Got the training he needed

ChornWork2
4
1 week ago

Well, at least he's off the career track now.

HipsterGalt
12
1 week ago

Someone else is getting a hell of a deal on a new car.

tgp1994
11
1 week ago

I've got the best deal! It basically fell off the truck, just for you!

PieSammich
9
1 week ago

Is it supposed to be a convertible though?

trigaderzad2606
3
1 week ago

Yeah! We converted it into a bumper car!

quazywabbit
2
1 week ago

Probably not. However the insurance will pay for the damages and the car will probably be totaled.

BenevolentCheese
2
1 week ago

Why would someone get fired when their equipment malfunctions?

Barstarzztrucker
2
1 week ago

Probably not. I used to drive one of these. He probably didn't stall, it looks like he got stuck on the tracks. These things have less clearance than your average car these days. I actually made a custom valve to raise the airbags for when things like this happened. And they happened a lot. Luckily for me, never on train tracks.

Beyond that, the driver is likely responsible for the deductibles for each car which will be taken from his pay over the next year.

questionboye
412
1 week ago

People on the train don't even feel it. Source: was passenger on train that punted a truck off the track.

Th3_Admiral
264
1 week ago

And that would have been a passenger train you were on, which weighs significantly less than a freight train like in the gif. A fully loaded freight train can weigh well over 10,000 tons.

jtl94
144
1 week ago

Train engines are seriously impressive machines. That’s a lot of weight to move.

Th3_Admiral
173
1 week ago

I looked it up because I was curious and the heaviest train ever on record was an ore train in Australia with 682 cars and eight locomotives for a total weight of 98,159 tons.

jtl94
91
1 week ago

FUCK ME. That’s a ridiculous number to think about.

marikuana
51
1 week ago

No, fuck me instead!

Sololop
28
1 week ago

Can I join in

marikuana
15
1 week ago

Woah woah. We aren’t some crazy sex addicted swingers

jtl94
10
1 week ago

We just ask internet strangers to fuck? ;p

marikuana
9
1 week ago

Actually, r/jtl94 is my husband. We fuck dearly irl

jtl94
11
1 week ago

Putting it that way is even crazier than almost 100k tons. I can’t even drag around 2 million pounds! Much less 196 million!

CrimsonArgie
4
1 week ago

Yep. Think about wating at a crossing with a train as long as that.

eagle332288
2
1 week ago

If each car passes every 2.5 seconds, it'd take 1705 seconds or about 28 1/2 minutes lol

hiimred2
15
1 week ago

And that is why a tidal wave is an unfathomable force of destruction. The ability of water to hold up that kind of weight through buoyant forces is fairly directly related to the energy it’s going to be carrying when the earth shoves a ton of it ashore(which then shows how insane something has to be to create a massive tidal wave, because it moved all that water in the first place).

deewheredohisfeetgo
3
1 week ago

I was watching this documentary about a massive tidal wave in Alaska of all places in the ‘50s or ‘60s. It’s the largest one they’ve ever seen record of. It was like 1100 fucking feet tall. Some dude and his kid rode it out in a small fishing boat. It wiped out the tree line hundreds of feet up a mountainside. Shit is insane.

WhitePawn00
2
1 week ago

For perspective, that's about half as tall as Shanghai Tower

Forces of nature are scary.

Th3_Admiral
5
1 week ago

The largest ore ship currently at sea can hold 400,000 tons of ore. That's four of these entire trains - locomotives, cars, ore, and all! These scales are absolutely crazy to me.

slopecarver
14
1 week ago

That's the weight of 30 Saturn V rockets, or 15% the displacement of the largest oil tankers.

aaronkz
20
1 week ago

My takeaway here is that the largest oil tankers displace 200 Saturn Vs

glt23
12
1 week ago

490 blue whales

PM_ME_YOUR_GOOD_NEW5
5
1 week ago

klaxon

triggerman602
2
1 week ago

Yeah but how many Olympic football fields is that?

glt23
2
1 week ago

Assuming an average of 80.5 feet (male and female lengths) would be about 131.5 football fields in length

Unique-Sn0wflake
2
1 week ago

Or, about 1/3 of your mom

glt23
2
1 week ago

Nice

pm_me_jupiter_photos
2
1 week ago

Makes me curious on what the linkage weight capacity is. Also if trains in the back help reduce the load on individual links. I have no idea how trains work.

Th3_Admiral
2
1 week ago

You are exactly right. The Wikipedia article I was reading mentioned they were using distributed power, so the eight locomotives were spread throughout the train. I work for a railroad here in the US and we do the same thing. The most common example is when moving large coal trains through the mountains. You need some locomotives pushing and others pulling otherwise the train could pull itself apart from the weight.

LP2006
2
1 week ago

I can’t even fathom that! The most I’ve ever handled on a train is 182 cars and 26,000 tonnes. and that was a test train to see if our area could handle it with all the undulating terrain that we never saw again.

Noryln
2
1 week ago

682 cars? That would suck to be stuck at a crossing waiting for that.

Maz2742
2
1 week ago

Is that short tons or long tonnes?

DlLDO_Baggins
2
1 week ago

Would all 8 be in the front or would they be spread out among the cars?

SirDoDDo
2
1 week ago

Ah, of course, Australia

The only country with railways so straight that you can put a 682 cars freight train on them and it'll be fine

JohnGenericDoe
2
1 week ago
nowordsleft
14
1 week ago

Its even more impressive when you consider the friction contact patch of the train's wheels on the rails is very small. And it's metal on metal.

mr_GFYS
14
1 week ago

I read somewhere that the contact area of the average freight train is about the size of a coffee table. Crazy, no wonder they take so long to fully stop when underway.

Bojangly7
3
1 week ago

Yes but this is also why they can move on the first place.

jabberwocke1
11
1 week ago

A locomotive can use compressed air to blow sand under its wheels to increase friction for starting and stopping. Not used much for stopping as flat spots on train wheels really make a bang each time they go around (summer job in a roundhouse)

TheRealIdeaCollector
2
1 week ago

Actually, metal on metal makes heavy loads easier to move. It's why horsecars succeeded where omnibuses didn't: putting the load on rails meant one horse could tow much more.

nowordsleft
5
1 week ago

Yeah, but horses have feet for propelling them. My point was that the steel wheels are trying to produce the friction to move a 10,000 ton train while touching steel rails. Once moving, it’s incredibly efficient. Getting moving is the problem.

SharkBaitDLS
3
1 week ago

This is also why freight trains are ludicrously fuel efficient for the amount of cargo they move.

thikut
2
1 week ago

And somehow we in the United States settled for air and automobile travel. Both so fucking inefficient...

ickybus
6
1 week ago

The population distribution in the United States is fucking inefficient. It's not like someone just up and decided that we were going to drive and fly everywhere... fixed transit infrastructure requires population density that we just don't have in 99% of the country.

triggerman602
3
1 week ago

Didn't General Motors just up and decide that?

ickybus
2
1 week ago

the bus vs. streetcar debate, which GM was very much a part of, isn't really as big of a deal in overall efficiency as dedicated light/heavy passenger rail. GM's influence didn't extend to dedicated right-of-ways that buses wouldn't be using anyway.

jtl94
2
1 week ago

Planes are much faster traveling from Georgia to California, etc. long long distance than cars or trains so I get why we did that. I would love to see more commuter trains though.

ImgursDownvote4Love
2
1 week ago

Remember that smaller locomotives are typically 80-100 tonnes

rever3nd
15
1 week ago

The one I brought in last night weighed 19,000 and change. You still feel it when you hit cars and stuff. Significantly less than the car though.

Leftenant_Chungas
2
1 week ago

A 11 car long fully ladened ballast train in the UK weighs about 7,000 tons. That's with a singular class 66 locomotive. Built for us by you cowboy fellows at the General Motors Company . Surely a fill length American container train weighs muc

h more than this

travisrd
2
1 week ago

The average coal train is like 15-20k tons

StoriesSoReal
99
1 week ago

That is incorrect. You feel everything when you ride on the engine. Passengers on a passenger train do not feel as much because the drawbars between the cars have a lot of cushion. Engineer and conductor feel everything though. That sound and feeling when an animal or person hitting the front of your engine will haunt you forever.

tenninjas242
47
1 week ago

or person

Fucking yikes.

sav01eekcm
49
1 week ago

My dad is a train conductor/engineer. He ran through an entire pack of dogs once. He doesn’t like to talk about it...

OleColonelAngus
14
1 week ago

He ran through an entire pack of dogs once.

And that was during a trip to the supermarket in a minivan!

MuhTriggersGuise
2
1 week ago

Had to drive through the animal shelter to get it done.

marikuana
6
1 week ago

Yeah... rightfully so...

Swirl-hiver
7
1 week ago

Most train conductors have seen some scarring shit.

GalaxyClass
5
1 week ago

If it makes him feel any better, those dog's were probably up to no good.

sav01eekcm
2
1 week ago

My dad is a hard ass with a ridiculous soft spot for stray animals. They could be doing no harm in his eyes. Lol

GalaxyClass
6
1 week ago

But they were probably plotting against a smaller cuter stray animal.

Senor_Met
3
1 week ago

in fact they were going to rob the cute stray animal orphanage

sav01eekcm
2
1 week ago

Just as nature intended unfortunately

26point2PipeDream
2
1 week ago

I’d be pretty concerned if he did like talking about it

Creator13
26
1 week ago

Happens all too often where I live. We have a very advanced train network (Europe) and you can see all train problems and delays together in one app. They also broadcast them in the stations. At least once a week you see that trains don't run because of a collision with a person. There are even weeks where it's every day and twice a day isn't very uncommon either. You become kind of desensitized to hearing them say it and the news barely ever reports on it anymore.

WindLane
23
1 week ago

It's a very common way to commit suicide. Train can't stop and ruin your attempt.

rever3nd
28
1 week ago

If you’re thinking about suicide, don’t do it. Call the hotline. People love you. If after all that, you still want to off yourself? Don’t use a fucking train.

A few things are going to happen. You’re either going to get hit by a fast train, or a slow train. If it’s slow you’re going to have limbs slowly crushed off by the wheels and then get stuck under neath the train where you bleed to death. If it’s a fast mover you will either be a) yeeted out into the world rather unceremoniously. Think rag doll death slow mo in Skyrim. Or b) sucked under where you get balled up under cars and wheels breaking every bone in your body and turning you into a bag of guts.

The last thing that happens is I have to watch you die and that can fuck with some people. Don’t do it. 800 273 8255

Topicalplant
18
1 week ago

call the hotline because no one else wants to deal with you

That’s what it sounds like when people push “the hotline”.

rever3nd
25
1 week ago

I’d love to talk to anyone that needs to talk. Didn’t mean for it to come across as uncaring.

Where I don’t want to deal with you is when I’m giving a statement about the thud your head made against the train while the coroner is underneath the car bagging up pieces of you and his partner is power washing blood off the front of my engine. All the while I’m listening to my conductor sob while he calls his wife on the phone to tell her what happened because he’s the guy that had to walk back there and find you.

It’s a surefire to end one’s life and fuck up two others in the process.

Godcracker
4
1 week ago

This argument always made me sad because it's more so I'm not equipped to help you. They are

Noryln
2
1 week ago

Imo people saying these things are the equivalent of "thoughts and prayers". It's meaningless.

thikut
4
1 week ago

Very common, and very fucked up. How selfish and fucked-up do you have to be to deliberately give someone else PTSD because you want to die?

TrapQueenIrene
6
1 week ago

The act of suicide itself may be selfish, but calling the person committing suicide selfish is a bit off.

Suicidal people are not rational. By the time you get to the point of wanting to end your life, the only thing you can think about is how to make the pain stop. It clouds your judgment and overrides that deeply rooted survival instinct we have. I guess you could say this makes a person "fucked-up", but usually that word gets thrown around when talking about shitty people, not people in a shitty mental state.

Sadly, regardless of method, suicide absolutely does cause PTSD for loved ones, bystanders, first responders, etc., but most of the time that thought doesn't cross a suicidal person's mind. Or that person might be convinced by that point that no one else gives a fuck if they die. These are not selfish people.

When I made my attempt it was like this. All I wanted was to stop the pain. It consumes you. It wasn't until I woke up in the hospital with my grandmother holding my hand that I realized how much pain I had caused others, and how much worse it would have been had I been successful. I'm glad I got that chance, but others don't. They aren't selfish. They are mentally ill, and the only way they see out is death.

It's something that is difficult for people to understand if they have never been in that place mentally, and I absolutely understand how that could be interpreted as selfish. But these are victims of their own mental health, and medical treatment for mental health is all over the place. Even if you can access health care, mental illness can be extremely hard to treat. I have been through 20 years of various therapy, medication cocktails, and being told that some new medication or therapy technique will definitely help me this time. It's hard not to lose hope after all that time. Imagine what it's like for people too scared to seek help, or live in cultures that treat mental health problems like they are non-existent.

So yes, the act itself is inherently selfish because you absolutely will have an effect on someone's life in a negative way, but most suicide victims aren't selfish people.

thikut
3
1 week ago

I mean, I know they're not rational - they're only thinking about themselves at the time. That's understandable, but still...

So yes, the act itself is inherently selfish because you absolutely will have an effect on someone's life in a negative way, but most suicide victims aren't selfish people.

You're right

suddenlyicecream
4
1 week ago

What if you just did it at night and no one saw it happen?

ickybus
6
1 week ago

Locomotives have these handy things called lights

WindLane
3
1 week ago

Most suicide is like that - somebody finds the body. Making the train engineer do your dirty work is that step above though.

Lksaar
9
1 week ago

Train conductors in germany are expected to kill atleast 3 people on average during their work life.

ahmc84
30
1 week ago

That seems like a harsh job requirement.

CeleryStickBeating
2
1 week ago

But a hardcore resume line for assassin.

I promise to be good for the rest of the day....

13speed
2
1 week ago

"Dieter, we need to have a talk. Your body count is way below average, you have to pump those numbers up."

rever3nd
17
1 week ago

I’m American and got my first one about 1 month in. It happens a lot.

you999
5
1 week ago

That's pretty low. Here in the states each crew base hits around one person a month.

OleColonelAngus
2
1 week ago

And that's just on the commute to the train station!

Der_Pimmelreiter
2
1 week ago

Considering that the conductor is the guy who checks the tickets, that's rather surprising. Or maybe penalties for fare evasion have got more severe since I last checked.

donkyhotay
2
1 week ago

Town I live in doesn't have any good convenient bridges but does have an easily accessible train track with trains that run through it often enough at a decent speed. Because of this one section specifically is known as "suicide tracks" and is the most common way people off themselves here.

grumpyfatguy
2
1 week ago

He didn't mean emotionally damn

justin_memer
5
1 week ago

The only people on the train would probably be on the engine, no?

tvgenius
3
1 week ago

I was on an Amtrak that hit a tractor parked on the tracks in the middle of the night. Almost everyone slept through the emergency braking. Only a few people woke up and knew anything happened. I vaguely remembered half waking up at some point during the night and smelling gasoline (apparently it spilled a lot) but that was it. Didn't even remember knowing we'd stopped.

Russ1642
3
1 week ago

When I was around ten I got to ride on a freight train. Engineer let me blow the whistle and change gears. Anyway, we hit a car full of drunks that tried to beat us through a crossing. Caught their rear end and sent them flying into a telephone pole. Didn't feel a thing. Not even the slightest bump. Didn't even stop, just called it in and kept going.

smallchangesinworld
2
1 week ago

It looks like a Union Pacific train, do they even have passengers? I'd figure it would be mostly cargo or something like that.

mr_GFYS
2
1 week ago

Correct. UP freight train. They normally have a crew of 2-3 people that operate the train, no “passengers” per se.

you999
2
1 week ago

Pretty incorrect. The forces involved going from track speed to zero in an emergency brake application is enough to kick you on your ass of you aren't prepared for it. Especially on newer rail cars that have ABS.

-source I work in the passenger rail industry

Edenwing
2
1 week ago

m1v1=m2v2

physicspriest
240
1 week ago

What’s going on with El Paso

firexcracker
43
1 week ago

Heat addled

Phylogenizer
35
1 week ago

Nothing compared to what happened last night in Sweden.

Downvotes_catpics
13
1 week ago

Fill me in?

midNightChickenWings
2
1 week ago

No homo

Teh_Pwnr77
28
1 week ago

New Ohio?

netpastor
19
1 week ago

Catching up to Florida?

Coachcrog
7
1 week ago

Whoah, don't jump the gun dude. Ain't no one catchin up to the flaccid dick of America. I grew up in that steamy shit house and can give you a thousand reasons why.

TheConsulted
7
1 week ago

Wha...hey. Just when you think you're safe lmao.

General-Kn0wledge
3
1 week ago

Somebody was just trying to steal the methylamine from the train but the train gave 0 fucks

nocimus
3
1 week ago

Shit like this happens on railways literally everywhere on an almost daily basis. Part of my job is receiving spill and incident reports from the railroads in my state. Almost every week there's at least one fatality from people walking on tracks, trespassing in one of the rail yards, etc. People love driving and parking on the tracks, man.

_-POTUS-_
2
1 week ago

The car failed to declare a bingo.

w1987g
216
1 week ago

The car seems to have held up surprisingly well considering it just got yeeted

Ombudsman_of_Funk
118
1 week ago

"Like new! Low miles!"

rainbowgeoff
31
1 week ago

I know what I have!

greeneyesfirehair
11
1 week ago

Lowball= blocked

whatsthehappenstance
14
1 week ago

"Low flight miles"

FelixTheHouseLeopard
4
1 week ago

Clean Carfax!

netpastor
3
1 week ago

Salvage title

quazywabbit
3
1 week ago

Only one accident.

d0ntb0ther
2
1 week ago

"I'm having troubles understanding this line on the carfax report."

backalleyduckdealer
25
1 week ago

I'm sorry to be that kind of person, but if I recall correctly the past tense of "yeet" is "yote".

w1987g
14
1 week ago

What is the past participle?

TheOneTrueTrench
17
1 week ago

Yoted.

The yoted car was sold by the unscrupulous car dealer.

Bachaddict
4
1 week ago

Because the impact was on the trailer imparting the force to the wheels instead of the bodywork

Weed7
5
1 week ago

$10 it still drives

Bachaddict
2
1 week ago

Probably has suspension all messed up but yeah could still drive

Rhesusmonkeydave
3
1 week ago

Yeah she’s a beaut- she gets 48 miles to the left per gallon, am/fm radio, blu tooth....

I’m sorry what was that?

Careless_Ejaculator
176
1 week ago

Looks like they needed an insurance payout on that Prius specifically.

HiVizUncle
88
1 week ago

The trailer probably cost more than the prius.

NedryOS
39
1 week ago

Easily. The Prius tops out at 40k if you toss some diamonds and your last paycheck in it and the car hauler starts around 40k assuming the tractor wasn't damaged, which I cant tell if it was still attached because of the lack of pixels. Plus the Prius probably has some salvage value given it wasn't running at the time while the trailer is likely scrap.

hammer166
17
1 week ago

A stinger carhauler like that is close to $300k right now. Even if you figure half the cost is the tractor, there was still a fair chunk of change tossed about in that crash.

NedryOS
3
1 week ago

Is it really? I must have been looking at older or lower volume models when I googled it to confirm my assumption. Either way it is clear that the cost of the trailer is more than the car. It would have to be to last as long as they do, I've seen 20 year old trailers still in use and trailers with well over a million miles and many with both. The average truck driver works far more than a normal 9-5 but even at a conservative 50 miles per hour, 2000 hours per year you've hit a million in just 10 years, during which time they'd have thousands of 2-4 ton cars driven up and down the ramps. Sure hydraulics and electrical might get replaced but the frame and most if not all of the decking should last that long. Anyway I'm just rambling and I doubt anyone cares.

hammer166
7
1 week ago

The issue with carhaulers is that the metal gets brittle over time. Not an issue for the first few years, but by the time they're 5 years old, you'll be welding cracks on a regular basis. We trade every 3 years because of this. Especially since we have a new car contract, and deal with a lot of diesel pickups (heavy. )

There are 20 year old carhaulers running around, but most that age have been painted and had frame rails replaced by that time, if not completely refurbed.

Edit: I'm currently leasing a 2018 Western Star with a Cottrell rack and trailer. $286k two years ago.

Crowbarmagic
2
1 week ago

Not to mention the damage on the train they might have to pay. Depends on the situation though.

mantist0boggan
3
1 week ago

Why was less damage caused by the car not running?

srock2012
9
1 week ago

Lower likelihood of unsalvageable parts since the lines would be clean and nothing firing at time of impact.

torinato
4
1 week ago

That’s really interesting, it makes complete sense, but i never thought of it.

BoredMechanic
2
1 week ago

That looks like a 2004-2008 Prius so well under 10k.

iamnotscottsmith
109
1 week ago

Someone smarter than me will give a better answer, but 1/2 to 2 miles is my answer.

blitzkrieg9
128
1 week ago

That is correct, depending on the load. Also, that is 1/2 to 2 miles for an emergency stop! For a planned stop they can start slowing down like 10 miles away.

EDIT: also, the reason it takes so long is because steel wheels on steel rails have very little friction. In theory, if you put enough car tires on a train, it would stop in 100 yards easy. But that is not practical.

cbelt3
47
1 week ago

Not only friction but mass. A huge train traveling at 120kph may have a kinetic energy of 28 Gigajoules. Not enough to send you back to the future, but it’s enough to kill a lot of people.

I’ve seen a large cargo train detail once. Fully loaded rail cars went 20 meters into the air and scattered like the toys of an angry toddler.

ProdesseQuamConspici
27
1 week ago

<pushes glasses up nose> Ekshewally, that train could provide 1.21 Gigawatts of power for 23.14 seconds, easily long enough to initiate time travel.

donkyhotay
14
1 week ago

So that's how Doc Brown got a time train at the end...

Aetol
4
1 week ago

But mass (well, weight) increases friction, so doesn't it cancel out? At least as long as the steel-on-steel friction is the limiting factor, if you reach the limit of the brakes themselves then extra mass does make it harder to slow down.

AilerAiref
2
1 week ago

28 Gigajoules

That is roughly 7 tons of TNT in freedom units. Roughly 0.05% of a Little Boy.

passthearrow
2
1 week ago

And the train cars don’t brake, right? If just the engine brakes, the cars are basically just momentum.

DNAblue2112
2
1 week ago

That depends on the cars. Most have air brakes that the engine can run. But that isn't the case if they don't have them or if they aren't connected (like when shunting in a yard)

rever3nd
40
1 week ago

At max speed for a controlled easy stop I know is coming, I start about 5-6 miles. Mainly because the signals leading up the stop signal force me to lower my speed. If it’s a stern “we need to stop” but not an emergency I can do it in less than a mile usually. An emergency stop is all the brakes, all at once and control is out of the picture. That depends entirely on train weight, speed at the time of application, track grade, and weather outside. It can be anywhere from a few hundred feet to well over a mile.

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Glad8der
18
1 week ago

Is there an option for more train facts?

I like trains...

LincLoL
3
1 week ago

You can hang out with my 6 year old for an hour or two. You won't like trains after that.

mr_GFYS
9
1 week ago

What do I press to subscribe to more train facts?

shapu
31
1 week ago

They also wouldn't hold the weight, so....

SomewhatIntoxicated
47
1 week ago

...yo mama can’t board the train?

shapu
13
1 week ago

My mother was a saint!

breakone9r
12
1 week ago

A saint Bernard?

shapu
2
1 week ago

Sure, but my issue is with a combination of weight and the requirement for narrow tires.

I'm not skilled enough to do the math but I'm sure someone around here must be.

Bear4188
2
1 week ago

And totally defeats the purpose of a train being an efficient, low friction means of transport.

wasmic
6
1 week ago

I haven't been able to find any real answers to this:

Are there brakes on the cargo wagons, or is it the locomotive(s) that provide all the braking power?

aceball522
10
1 week ago

The brakes on trains are on all cars. They're air brakes powered by the compressors on the engines.

4728582849
5
1 week ago

Air brakes on all the cars, a separate set of independent air brakes on each locomotive, and dynamic braking on the locomotives (using the motors). All the cars provide braking power but the locomotives do provide more braking power per axle due to sanding for friction plus more weight than the cars.

When flat switching or humping inside a yard generally there is no braking from the cars, only the engines, but also typically they don't move faster than 15 mph or so.

Mjolnir12
16
1 week ago

It's not so much the mass as the lack of friction between the smooth wheels and smooth track. The friction is also what limits the max speed of high speed trains.

CunningWizard
2
1 week ago

Yup, those wheels would slide like crazy during e-stops. I believe this is why light rail trains that operate at street grade have pads that come down onto the track for emergency stopping.

Electric_Spark
3
1 week ago

Use your factors, Tommy!

luckydc1984S
2
1 week ago

They meet in El Paso around 4:10pm on 8-12-19. Suck my ass Mr.Finn I told you I could do math right. Also suck my ass MR.Adams, I told you I could english.

CheeseMakingMom
21
1 week ago

Yes. The conductor can sometimes see quite far ahead. As can the engineer, the person operating the engine. However, the engineer can’t always stop the locomotive within visual distance, hence the concept of grade crossings...

It can be a mile or more to stop a freight train at track speed, in an emergency.

Source: am a train conductor.

acutemalamute
11
1 week ago

Depends a lot on how fast the train is going (they have to slow down around turns and in populated areas, but will go throttle-out on flat cross-country) and what it is carrying (again, depends on the area: in populated areas a train has to be able to clear a track in X time to limit emergency vehicle delays, but dgaf in cross country). Anywhere from 0.5 miles to 2 miles stopping distance, with an average emergency stop of little over a mile.

Ben_dover_4u
9
1 week ago

Depending on weight, grade of the track, and speed, it can be anywhere from 1/2 a mile to 2 miles emergency stopping distance. The train in the video looks to be an intermodal train so the brakes tend to take a little longer to setup. Source: I'm an engineer.

Teh_Pwnr77
3
1 week ago

At least a switch away or they literally won’t know there’s something on the track. Cause they still use switches in some places, probably not for super important freight anymore.

CandidateForDeletiin
3
1 week ago

The interesting answer you may not get is that conductors have to deal with a LOT of bullshit when they do an emergency stop, so often times if there does not appear to be anyone in mortal danger they will not try to stop until after they hit an object on the tracks. They'll slow down, but not stop.

wakeupalice
2
1 week ago

Seems self defeating if the emergency stop mechanism can't quickly be used.

behaaki
3
1 week ago

It’s more like the emergency stop fucks up parts of the train, then it’s a pain in the ass to get moving again

gumenski
2
1 week ago

I'm sure they see it, it's their job. They're paid very well and have a ton of training because of the experience it takes to get that position. It's a coveted spot.

Trains just can't stop easily because of how the wheels work. They can't accelerate or decelerate quickly since there's so little wheel friction. If you hard-locked the wheels in an emergency it would do nothing except possibly derail the train, or at best heavily damage it and the track without helping it stop any quicker.

149244179
2
1 week ago

Worked on heavy haul freight trains. Takes around 4 minutes to safely stop from cruise speed (~50 kph). If they need to emergency stop they can stop in 35 seconds. Doing so will square the wheels and ruin the train.

mylesrnussbaum
89
1 week ago

Seriously what is the chance of stalling out in such a small spot. You could stall ANYWHERE else and be ok.

mweather
81
1 week ago

It probably didn’t stall, it just bottomed in the hump between the tracks.

Pretty common and that’s why a lot of load carrying trailers have the “do not hump” warning sticker.

rever3nd
36
1 week ago

The do not hump sticker is a so that they don’t hump the car in the sorting yard. It’s a switching method.

mweather
9
1 week ago

I stand corrected. Thanks.

carnivorous-Vagina
7
1 week ago

My dad works at a hump yard in barstow . This guy humps!

LP2006
4
1 week ago

The hump yard would be a great retirement job, I wish I had one in my territory.

OIIOIIOIIOIIOIOIOIII
3
1 week ago
Bojangly7
2
1 week ago

This is the best humping video I've seen.

AceAndre
3
1 week ago

Yall are talking about two different things.

ClaudeSmoot
18
1 week ago

Exactly - when you see these videos, seems like 50% of the time it's one of these low-boy trailers hauling another vehicle or large piece of equipment. Check the clearance in this pic - and imagine bottoming out with a giant dump truck weighing you down. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowboy_(trailer)#/media/File:Globe_Trailers_Lowboy_with_Volvo_A300.jpg

TheFue
13
1 week ago

The "do not hump" label you see on train cars actually refers to hump yard operations, where cars are pushed over a small hill (or "hump,") and allowed to free-roll down into different yard tracks to build trains.

The tracks have braking systems on them called retarders to slow the rolling cars, but they still collide with the waiting string with a decent amount of force. Cars with sensitive cargo, or cars that may be damaged by such an impact are restricted from going through hump yards.

Roads that have a hump to the railroad crossing do tend to have signs, but they typically have a rudimentary image of a trailer being stuck on the tracks to warn drivers not to drive there.

mweather
4
1 week ago

Some ppl at my job buy coal that is brought by trains into our company’s coal yard. Years ago they gave the “Do not hump” labels as gifts and said this referred to the hump between the train tracks.

The long con.

Elrond_Hubbard_Jr
2
1 week ago

Coolest thing I’ve learned all day, thanks /u/TheFue

Tin_Foil
3
1 week ago

We got all new signs in our surrounding area after a car hauler got hit by a train due to getting hung up on the hump.

Cazrovereak
2
1 week ago

If you rewatch the point where the train impacts the trailer is at the rear axles. The tracks are at the highest point where the literal tracks are, where the train is. There's no way the trailer bottomed out at the axles. So the train should have hit a trailer that bottomed out, in the middle, but it didn't here.

Braxo
59
1 week ago

Track is on a bump and the truck bottomed out.

In some states, there should be a sign warning long trucks that they could bottom out on the track.

Short video showing the US Presidential Limo bottoming out on a bump in Ireland

wintertash
28
1 week ago

No matter how many times I've seen that video, the CLANG sound as The Beast's armored undercarriage hits the bump never stops making me giggle.

burning1rr
6
1 week ago

FWIW, I've heard that described as high centering, rather than bottoming out. IIRC, bottoming out is when you take a heavy hit (such as from landing a jump) and the suspension can't absorb the full impact.

High centered: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5H65fV4WAQ

Bottomed out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKQdlXvbWSU

dkyguy1995
2
1 week ago

This is hilarious. The secret service was probably flipping their lid

Plethorian
17
1 week ago

All semi trucks have special rules for crossing tracks. Never shift gears on the tracks, cross without enough room on the other side of the tracks, and never ever stop on the tracks. The CDL license materials and tests list certain types of trailers that should take special note of undercarriage clearance - lowboys, car haulers, step-decks, and possum-belly livestock haulers. This is entirely on the truck driver for attempting to cross without proper clearance.

breakone9r
2
1 week ago

"I was just following my GPS!"

The same GPS any robot would also follow.

Jaywebbs90
3
1 week ago

Not necessarily, youd be surprised how many truck drivers use non truck routing navigation. Or even using truck routing devices that they fail to program the correct dimensions of there truck into.

FairyflyKisses
2
1 week ago

There are also some roads that my truck gps tells me to turn on that I can clearly see the "no trucks" sign. GPS is a helpful guide but it's more important to pay attention to where you're going and plan the trip out before taking off.

IAmHereMaji
23
1 week ago

That's a fact, which doesn't care about your feelings.

LazanDoor
3
1 week ago

But I'm a millennial

hiero_
32
1 week ago

Question: When this happens, does the conductor have to stop the train and get out and talk to authorities? Or are they allowed to just say "fuck it, oh well" and keep going?

OceanGrownPharms
55
1 week ago

I would assume you’d want to stop at the very least to have the train checked for damage. I don’t imagine any conductor/engineer is saying “fuck it, if we derail at some point, oh well”

NinjaLanternShark
41
1 week ago

you’d want to stop at the very least to have the train checked for damage pick the SUV parts out of your grill

ftfy

TheUltimateSalesman
30
1 week ago

I think it's a federal investigation. FRA Federal Railroad Agency or soemthing. https://www.fra.dot.gov/Page/P0474

BONUS: You can signup for railway accident updates/emails here: https://service.govdelivery.com/accounts/USDOTFRA/subscriber/new?topic_id=USDOTFRA_10

Apparently you need three or more fatalities in any one accident that is non-schoolbus or commercial in order to warrant a federal investigation.

thessnake03
2
1 week ago

I would have guessed the NTSB too

AlloyedClavicle
3
1 week ago

Ah yes, the National Trainsportation Safety Bureau

CheeseMakingMom
16
1 week ago

In my experience, the conductor will be required to give a statement to the local gendarmes, and depending on the situation (property value and/or loss of life) be required to remain on the scene until local (RR) management arrives. But yes, we have to talk to the local LEOs. Source: am a passenger train conductor.

SomewhatIntoxicated
6
1 week ago

Are they required/allowed to clear the intersection?

CheeseMakingMom
18
1 week ago

We are permitted to remain occupying a grade crossing (road intersection) for 10 minutes in a non-emergency situation (depending on the local area’s governing rules; I’m bound by GCOR, in my area) but in an emergency we will remain stopped for however long it takes...I’ve been in a situation where we occupied the crossing for almost 4 hours, waiting on law enforcement, medical examiner, and relief crew. It was pretty gruesome, but we do what we have to do.

figaden13
11
1 week ago

i live in a town that is split in two by the tracks, i watched once as a freight train came to a full stop, i have no doubt the train was as long as our town is wide. On our side there was an ambulance about 3 or 4 vehicles down from the stop, it was blocked off from accessing the hospital on the other side. After about 20 minutes one of the medics got out and instructed the entire line of stopped cars to back up so the ambulance could get to the turn around and presumably find an alternative route to the hospital. Luckily everyone worked together and the ambulance got out fairly quickly but the train remained stopped for nearly a half hour. As a train conductor, what do you think would have happened to make the train stop like that? I assume there had to have been something major if the train came to a full stop completely cutting off half a town from the other side?

CheeseMakingMom
12
1 week ago

It could have been any number of things, from a trespasser strike, to a near-miss (still have to get out and inspect the train if it’s an emergency stop), to a broken knuckle, or a bad signal, or a busted air line. Depending on the length of the train, and the reason for the stop, it could have been any number of reasons.

Usmcuck
2
1 week ago

This guy runs trains.

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

CheeseMakingMom
7
1 week ago

*chick FTFY 😏

[deleted]
2
1 week ago

Username checks out.

FelixTheHouseLeopard
7
1 week ago

Odds are they will have cleared the crossing before the train comes to a stop, depending on train weight/length and speed.

Trains do not fuck about, and can take over a mile to come to a stop.

GhostOfPluto
8
1 week ago

I was on an Amtrak once that struck a car on the tracks. We were delayed while a report was filed. They also had to check on the train engine, but we were back on our way after about 30 minutes.

Another time the train hit a TV that some kids came and left on the tracks. We stopped for that one too, but just to check for damage.

dpyn016
4
1 week ago

I've hit a car in the US. The car stopped on the tracks and we were only able to stop about 200ft after the car even with the emergency brakes applied and doing no more than 20mph. Cops came and took the conductors information but we're only really required to hand out an ID card from the company. I talked to the driver of the car to see if there were injuries but that was it. Management deals with the rest of it. We had to walk the entire length of the train and back to make sure there wasn't a derailment due to the emergency brake application. We were driven away in a van soon after and another crew took the train in. Management never said anything else to me after but I did get a call from the company claims department asking for information about the collision.

I don't know what happened to this individual for being the idiot he was, but I've been told there can be some steep fines for people who get hit by trains because of the negligence. We essentially were blocking several major city streets for at least an hour because of this person. There are no arms that come down there at the crossing however there are lights and the bells. Either way you don't stop or stand on railroad tracks regardless.

SomeoneAnybody
3
1 week ago

As a railroader (signal maintainer; and yes, I cringed when the Prius landed on the control case), this video explains exactly what happens. It’s the radio transmissions at a train vs truck. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJQ3gqUqFCE

You can hear the shakiness in his voice.

StoriesSoReal
2
1 week ago

It depends, if it is a crossing accident crews stay at the scene until management arrives. Most crossing accidents require some sort of drug testing especially if a fatality is involved so usually the crew was taken off the train, drug tested, and sent home.

There usually isn't much to say to authorities when it comes to the conductor or engineer. Locomotives are equipped with cameras and the UP has both outward and inward facing cameras on their locomotives and if those are need for anything the company will take care of that not the people on site. For the most part the conductor doesn't do much for local authorities at crossing accidents unless the train derails and they carry hazardous materials.

you999
2
1 week ago

The very first thing the conductor or engineer will do after an emergency brake application is declare an emergency over the radio and try to get a hold of the dispatcher to get protection to prevent other trains from entering the area and then will tell the dispatcher what kind of emergency services are needed. If the train crew can not get of the dispatcher they will have to walk a mile in either direction and place a fusee to provide manual protection. After all that and if there is no damages the conductor will walk to the end of the Train will verifying their train is still on the tracks. Once he's at the rear he/she will do a brake test to verify the brakes are still operating as intended and high ball out there. If there is damages to the train or what they hit they'll have to fill out paperwork and usually another crew gets set in to take the train form there.

radj06
2
1 week ago

Legally the conductor only has to stop and leave a note

ThreeNC
27
1 week ago

GET A GREAT DEAL ON OUR SCRATCH AND DENT CARS AT EL PASO NISSAN!!!

DMAN591
3
1 week ago

MY OSCAR, HE'S SUCH A GOOD BOY!

briley13
21
1 week ago
eyegood38
20
1 week ago

Ok, so lets set a few things right here. As someone who works in this service unit (south texas) I can tell you a few things. The conductor is not the person in control of the train. That job falls to the engineer. The only thing the conductor can do is pull the emergency stop lever. A locomotive typically weighs about 420,000 lbs. Trains right now are running generally 8000 to 11000 tons gross weight. Rock trains are usually the heaviest. No one is getting fired from UP over this. The trains have inward and outward facing cameras that record everything, as well as computers that record all technical data regarding the motion of the train. There will be an investigation. Trains always have the right of way. The train probably stopped in about a 1/4 mile after hitting the trailer. Both the conductor and engineer will get three paid days off for this. FYI, if this ever happens to you, check the crossing house (little shack looking thing) for a phone number. Call that number immediately and report that you are stuck on the track and give them the mile post number. The information will be immediately relayed to a local dispatcher who can order the train to stop and with any luck, the whole mess can be avoided. Yes you feel the impact, but its usually minor. We can't see around corners/bends. Usually by the time we see something, there isn't enough time to do anything about it anyways. If we can tell a life is in imminent danger, we can pull the emergency brake lever, but this can be even more dangerous. Its much better to stop the train with "good train handling" to avoid derails which could result in deaths, spills of toxic substances, even more destruction, etc. We absolutely have to stop the train, call dispatch to report the collision, wait for authorities and UP investigators, talk to the investigator, and the conductor has to get off and walk back to check out the scene if its safe to do so (the engineer must remain on board the head unit). The train probably wasnt damaged too badly, but it will require a full inspection and repairs to any damaged components suck as the guard rails, stairs, knuckle, drawbar, etc. Any questions? (I'll probably delete this comment later as I fear for my job should someone recognize me and I get found commenting about this here)

stillcole
4
1 week ago

I mean this is great advice, you might have saved a couple of lives with this. I had no idea what to do in a situation like this

MuhTriggersGuise
4
1 week ago

I'll probably delete this comment later as I fear for my job should someone recognize me and I get found commenting about this here

Just delete the part of your comment that says your location and you should be pretty unidentifiable.

Jtlhskr2286
3
1 week ago

Right? I also work for this company and I’m questioning if what I said is “appropriate”

RoostasTowel
20
1 week ago

"The old Union Pacific doesn't come by here much anymore"

Skeptical_Romulan
8
1 week ago
not_sick_not_well
19
1 week ago

Nobody:

Literally not a single soul:

August: "fuck El paso"

*edit: stupid mobile formating

IWantToBeTheBoshy
8
1 week ago

El Paso: I am straight up not having a good time right now

heisenberg747
13
1 week ago

There should be a whole sub dedicated to stuff getting hit by trains

voxadam
15
1 week ago

/r/BitchImATrain has a fair amount.

Totesnotskynet
8
1 week ago

Do the airbags inflate if the cars are not on?

breakone9r
7
1 week ago

Not without batteries. And they're usually either removed or disconnected before transit.

ThePowerOfDreams
2
1 week ago

No.

wakepro2151
7
1 week ago

Was the car even tied down? I get it's likely the straps broke off but damn....

chaun2
21
1 week ago

Getting hit with 100+ tons of mass tends to break the weak points. In this case the weak points were the chains that held down that car.

wakepro2151
8
1 week ago

Yeah of course the train impact is insane. In Canada usually they have straps that go around the tire holding it down, just seems like the car flew off so easily. It looks like a Prius which is a small light car and I'd like the straps would have somewhat held it together. Lucky it didn't fly onto anyones car

chaun2
7
1 week ago

I've seen these trailers getting loaded and unloaded here in the US. They have chains that strap around the tires. Those are winched tight. Anything less than the force is a train wouldn't have affected them. They just aren't rated for that magnitude of force

wakepro2151
3
1 week ago

Yeah fair enough. Imagine having your full size truck being written off by a flying prius and having to explain to the boys how a prius squashed your heavy duty cummins

chaun2
3
1 week ago

ROFL that would almost be worth it 😂

NightSkulker
3
1 week ago

"New in theaters this fall: Attack of the Flying Prius! A radical new direction in horror!"
"Jim, we can't go that way!"
"Why not?"
"There is a Prius swarm over there. Just look at them all!"
View pans to trees filled with Prius

ElectricNed
3
1 week ago

Prii aren't terribly light- curb weight on that generation is nearly 3,000lb.

jtl94
2
1 week ago

Glad I’m not the only one that was thinking that. Seems crazy.

Eagles365or366
4
1 week ago

Man, whys it gotta be a prius?

onemightyandstrong
2
1 week ago

For comedic effect.

samson55430
6
1 week ago

Man, El Paso just can't catch a break.

HMS404
3
1 week ago

Train of bad luck continues :(

samson55430
2
1 week ago

I see what you did there...

PineapplePizzaLuver
5
1 week ago

Don’t worry guys it was just a Prius, nothing good was lost here

arizonatasteslike
5
1 week ago

Damn, Toledo has had no luck lately

HarryRingpiece
4
1 week ago

“This train doesn’t stop at El Paso”

nickdagreek6588
3
1 week ago
The_Brutally_Honest
2
1 week ago

What else did you want to see?

nickdagreek6588
6
1 week ago

Aftermath of trailer ripped apart

TheBapster
3
1 week ago

Meh it was only a Prius.

twitchosx
3
1 week ago

Hell yeah. Fucking punted that car.

Herr-Inspektor
3
1 week ago

That Escaladed quickly as the train reached that part of his Transit

wdgiles
3
1 week ago

in Oprah's voice: "You get a drug test!, you get a drug test!, you all get a drug test!"

shugerbooger
3
1 week ago

I never did see the car that was carrying a trailer. Maybe it was obscured by the car-carrying trailer.

NaethanC
2
1 week ago
Autski
2
1 week ago

How much would this typically damage a train? It almost looked like it didn't even scrape it. Are trains just tanks with plate armor at the front and they can just brush stuff like this off? Or do they have to pull off and go through a massive inspection testing the integrity, structure, etc.?

StoriesSoReal
3
1 week ago

The cattle guard on the front of the train will take some damage. It might be safe to move it may not be. Just depends. The biggest problem is all the debris going under the train damaging the air hoses for the air brakes. They will be inspected on track then moved once it is deemed safe.

Ms_KnowItSome
2
1 week ago

The main frame of the locomotive is made of heavy steel an inch thick or more in lots of places. That frame pushed the relatively lightweight trailer out of the way like it was made of toothpicks and a prius isn't much mass for the cab to just barely brush out of the way as it flies out of the air.

Even a locomotive hitting a dump truck, the train wins by a large margin. https://youtu.be/nqFH2J0YEC0?t=26

There is just no screwing with trains, and when they run into each other it's a bit of a surprise they don't tear a hole in space and time from the energy dissipated from the crash.

briellie
2
1 week ago

Looks like that truck driver needed more... training.

ndesplas
2
1 week ago

That prius landed right where it belongs

Berry_Seinfeld
2
1 week ago

Is it wrong my first instinct is that the conductor low key enjoyed this?

boringdude00
7
1 week ago

I doubt it. Train operators are generally terrified of kiling people at crossings. They have no idea if the driver is passed out in the cab, debris is going to hit the people watching, or some idiots are standing on the other side.

vwtk
5
1 week ago

As someone who has been through it multiple times, no, neither the engineer or conductor ever enjoys it.

dave_312
2
1 week ago

They also don't put "crush zones" on train bumpers. Just a big buncha steel that isn't friendly...

ImOldGreggggggggggg
2
1 week ago

That's when you run over and jump in the car and act like you were in there the whole time.

PervyPie
2
1 week ago
darkuser93
2
1 week ago

This is gta V material

dgrantg
2
1 week ago

Best place for a Prius is the junkyard.

Imaginary_Confidence
2
1 week ago

I remember doing that in gta when I was bored

KadenKraw
2
1 week ago

Where were the giant explosions Holywood has led us to believe happens

xEmeryn
2
1 week ago

To put this into perspective, this guy probably had his brakes full pressure or already in emergency(a bit more air pressure to the brakes) and it didn't even slow him down

slyfoxj
2
1 week ago

What the crap! Where's the huge explosion when the car gets hit? I've been lied to by movies.

yakadoodle
2
1 week ago

I like how trains rarely even flinch.

FloatLife
2
1 week ago

I hate Mondays.

layaway_crown
2
1 week ago

What happens when a train hits something? Do they stop or like keep going?

AWildRedditorApeared
2
1 week ago
LordMacDonald
2
1 week ago

Trains are so good at moving things

Thegrandestpoo
2
1 week ago

Never shift gears when you're crossing a train track. Truckers 101. Don't know if that's what caused the stall, but it can definitely be an offender. Either that or they bottom out because car hauler trailers are extremely low to the ground.

Edit: Yep, looks like he bottomed out.

vivalarevoluciones
2
1 week ago

Car piercer

Icy-Torque
2
1 week ago

El Paso is having a rough Year

chuckswagonthe2
2
1 week ago

Talk about an unlucky city, jesus

Professional_Hooker
2
1 week ago

He was hung up, not stalled. Driver error, not a mechanical one. Sucks to suck, but put the blame where it belongs.

glowingRockOnDesk
2
1 week ago

The Los Santos train waits for no one, brother - not even you.

Jtlhskr2286
2
1 week ago

Conductor here: at the moment of impact I’d bet good money the crew applied the emergency brakes and made every attempt to stop. However, with those being intermodal containers behind the engines, those trains are typically traveling 60 mph+. So it would easily take 2 miles to stop if not more.

redditscrub20
2
1 week ago

El Paso has been a train wreck lately