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I would be 20 minutes late everyday, and my dad would tell me I was lucky I didn’t have to walk(30km)
Tell him you're lucky to have a job and not ride a bike for 2 hours to get your family some water and a piece of bread like some dads in third world countries do!
That's like saying someone with a peanut allergy is lucky they don't have to walk 10 miles for a peanut. 1st and 3rd world problems are 2 different things.
I think that was the point. Saying he is lucky not to have to walk 30km to school is like comparison the 1st world to the 3rd.
TBH living 30km from the school is waaaay more like the 3d world.
Fucking got ‘em
To consider it is an example entirely irrelevant to the central focus.
I'm still trying to figure out how this analogy would make any sense...
My brain cannot process this comment. Am I stupid?
ok thank god I'm not the only one that shit makes no sense
imagine touching a nut and dying
Parents love using 3rd world country examples though so it sort of fits.
That’s literally exactly the point he was making lol
You were lucky. We lived for three months in a brown paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six o'clock in the morning, clean the bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down mill for fourteen hours a day week in-week out. When we got home, our Dad would thrash us to sleep with his belt!
Make this a copy pasta
It's from a Monty Python skit
It's already a very old British skit.
you're a very old British skit
That explains why I've got me head nailed to the floor
British laugh track
Luxury. We used to have to get out of the lake at three o'clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of hot gravel, go to work at the mill every day for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would beat us around the head and neck with a broken bottle, if we were LUCKY!
You had a bag? What I would've given for that privilege.
We grew up in a hole that migrant workers used to shit in. We had to get up at 3am, dig the shit out, eat any peanuts we found in it for our only meal that day, and then go work a 20 hour shift as a test subject for non-lethal weapons like pepper spray and tasers. Then we'd get home and the raccoon that had become our father figure would gnaw our faces until we fell asleep to repeat it all the next day.
Where's the jumper cables guy these days
Ah, the soothing lullaby of a belt whipping flesh
honestly with the bullshit i make per hour. i’d ride a bike 2 hours a day for a bread
Should have walked that 30km to school, sounds like...
Just tell him this is why young people hate old people and old people hate young people
You wanna get beat with jumper cables? This is how you get beat with jumper cables for mouthing off.
Oh wow, that perspective is humbling.
You were never slapped as a kid were you
Tell him he’s lucky that the gods of the abyss have not risen up; that Nergal has not pulled out the dams of the nether waters; nor has Ninurta the war-lord thrown down the dikes; nor have the seven judges of hell, the Annunaki, raised their torches to light the land with their livid flame; nor has Emma yet changed the master password on the shared Netflix account.
Plot twist: OP lives in Somalia
It's a strange thing really, I wonder if these kind of people birth children just to repeatedly prove to them that life is a pain. Like, I get it dad, can I go now.
Lol and then wonder why we're not excited about living
I would be excited about living...
if I wouldn't have to insert the debt dildo into my ass to pretend to be job eligible to an employer who'll treat me like his wet socks anyway.
o o f
In the snow barefoot up a hill? Ur dad must have walked the same route as my mum
Uphill BOTH WAYS
Some motherfuckers always trying to ice-skate uphill
Blade is still great
FML. My mother and uncles legitimately had to walk uphill to school, both ways in the snow. Like not big hills, but still. Best believe that gets brought up often enough
My parents were the same way when I was younger. I just told them they were lucky I wasn't doing drugs like other kids my age.
but it turns out I was doing hella drugs
I wasn't, but then I did and now I smoke hella weed. Kinda makes me feel guilty but fuck it they made me this way
I also feel guilty for smoking weed. But why do we feel so? It's way better than drinking every weekend.
Guilt comes from society and family. Personally ever since I've become a stoner my life has been on the up and up. From suicidal and in bed for 16 hours a day to working out daily and learning how to create things.
Fuck the guilt
Too bad if they don't have the nutrients to grow from it.
Idk if they do or not XD don't take my word for it, but it sounds unlikely.
Think of the gains!
"When i was your age, i used to walk 13 miles to get to school!"
-oh yeah? Is that why you didn't graduate?
That's a a classic dad move
Boy when I was your age I worked 3 jobs walked through 20 miles of snow with all my tools on never lost a single one. I became foreman at the age of 9.
Kids nowadays don’t know shit about hard work. Everything is digitized yall lucky you don’t need to learn long division no more. I still got my abacus fuck this digital world!
I can relate 100% :)
30km, in snow, with newspapers for shoes...
Ultimate bruh moment
Some dumb teahcers would punish us when the fucking bus was late.
Explain to me how standing in the class for the entire period is gonna fix the fucking bus schedule, Rachel.
Wow, a punishment that actively detracts from your ability to learn and focus. Sounds reasonable.
I got out of school suspension for skipping class in HS. Like wow thanks no I dont have to go to any classes! What a smart move!
I always think about that! Especially for students who are skipping classes because they don't want to go to school, that kind of suspension is like a reward
Suspensions is just the school telling your parents to punish you instead
There are multiple reasons for suspension.
1) your action didn't warrant an expulsion and they wanted to get you out of their hair
2) you actually deserved a suspension
3) they've given up and want your parents to interfere with the at-school behavior
4) they're trying to get your parents to make you transfer schools by giving you repeated suspensions because suspensions aren't taken into consideration when they receive their budget from the state and expulsions are, so they want you to leave on your own
I was in the 4th group. The administrations of schools are shitty as fuck. I understand that the budget is important (you can always make the argument that adding too many expulsions to your records would mean you can't afford new history books for the other students), but they are just fucking shitty about it.
Schools don't exist to fix kids
And you would think people who are Educators would be smart enough to realize this...
They are. But in my personal experience, it keeps a child from the class who nearly always tends to be distracting others. It's up to the parents to discipline from there, and hopefully they do.
Teachers shouldn't be babysitters. Teach your crappy kid some proper behavior.
They do. That guy was probably an annoying student.
It's to get them out of the hallways. They dont give a shit about actually punishing the student for skipping class. Kids who skip class tend to not want to go, meaning they have incentive to do it over and over.
If they're suspended, they don't wander the hallways and cause trouble.
I got the same "punishment" for the same reason. I got called to the office end of day Friday and was given a 2-day suspension which to me was just a 4-day weekend. Pretty sure I played cod4 the whole time lol
I was suspended once in junior high for being late too many times and they let me choose the day I wanted to take my suspension. I couldn’t believe my luck! Chose a day I had a big presentation that I wasn’t ready for to save my own ass. Thanks, Mr. Marsh!
They told us “Nobody with detention still owed will graduate; you’ll just receive a blank diploma during the ceremony”.
I had 19 detentions still owed and guess what? My diploma was not, in fact, blank. Bunch of shysters.
Lower graduation rates look bad and can reduce funding. It's why even the kid with straight F's manages to graduate.
No child left behind! /s
Yep my school had to lower the passing grade to a D
Yep. Lunch detention because I was late. Two lunch detentions for skipping lunch detention. After school suspension for skipping those. In school suspension for skipping those. Finally full day suspension for skipping those.
That’s cool. I got two days off to smoke weed and take my dog to the park.
Suspensions are not to make the offending child learn a lesson; it’s to keep an obtrusive influence out of the classroom.
Happened to me in high school when I started to get a drug problem in senior year, all the teachers and staff knew I did and suspended me anyway. Some dealers heard and I had a great week. Schools are so fucking dumb they just made my addiction worse with that. Not to say I'm blameless but that doesn't mean schools have no blame.
My principal was gonna suspend me but then he said he knew it would be more of a reward for me so I stayed
Saaame. It was the best!
My school suspended us if we came late too often. I ended up skipping classes instead of coming in late so that I could at least control which day of class I was gonna skip and not miss the most important days because of the retarded rule.
I got In School Suspension once and since I wasn't allowed to go to my classes, I was able to actually catch up on my class work. So it was a reward for me more than it was a punishment.
Suspension isn’t so much a punishment as it is a way to give the teachers and students a break from kids who are disruptive to the class. It makes a little more sense when you think of it that way.
Not really. I'm not disrupting the class if I didn't show up lmao
You showed you don’t care about the class by skipping. You not being there leaves more resources for students who do care. I didn’t invent the public school punishment system, just telling you what I’ve heard about it.
Well if skipping class is a bad thing, why do they make me skip class as a punishment?
Because then you have to spend the day with pissed off parents
It’s a productive solution because it frees up the teacher to focus on kids that care about learning rather than policing one kid the whole time.
In 7th grade I answered a question wrong and my teacher thought I did so on purpose. My punishment was to sit in the back of class not allowed to participate for the next couple months. As a 13 year old I thought it was great. I did homework for other classes. But looking back it was such a dumb punishment.
I had a math teacher who'd make me go into this side room away from the class and I'd have to teach myself the class those days. I got very far behind in that class due to it.
He said it was because I was already behind but I was behind from his horrible teaching. Later found out the real reason was that he just hated me being gay and thought that putting me away from the class was an okay thing to do.
I smell a lawsuit
I wish, this was back in 7th grade like 7 or 8 years ago.
Ugh I wish too. I hope your life is better than that shit bag ever will be. I think you’ve got a good start already- silver lining on the fact that you had to learn the hard way.
Oh, they knew. Doesn't mean they weren't assholes about it.
Teachers like to take their home issues (going through a divorce) out on their students. Best thing you can do as a student is rub it in their face. Jk.
Kids shouldn't be punished for arriving late anyway, as long as they're under driving age or don't drive to school. 99% of the time, it's the parents' fault.
They know this, but that's how they get to the parents. Kids go home agitated and start pushing their parents to be on time because they don't want to be punished at school. Punishing for a bus being late is total nonsense, though.
But why should the kid suffer consequences for something they have absolutely no control over? Implement better policies for tardiness. This easy way out shit is a huge part of the problem with school punishments in general.
They are just prepping kids to be the on time slaves for the workforce. You think your boss gives a damn if you are late due to any reason whatsoever? Nope. They are just prepping these kids for the real world.
The easy way out shit is a by-product of the last couple generations of parents going after schools over every little thing and treating schools like daycares. It's an extension of the 'I'm my child's best friend' nonsense with some 'I didn't really want kids. They are not my focus at all.' crowd.
There would need to be a paradigm shift in administration policies and parent behavior for the underlying issues that cause this kind of punishment to be used, unfortunately.
Yeah, go ahead and punish me in school so I can go home, mouth off and get popped one.
Gooooooood plan, smh
A parent doing that is exactly the kind of parent a teacher wants to avoid interacting with so you can see why they avoid going to them directly. Now imagine you have to deal with a dozen shitty parents like that.
I'm not saying it's right. More that from a self-preservation stand-point it makes sense.
Oh, I just meant, all that happens is the teacher shits on me, I crumble, then the home front shits on me more, ya know?
The only times I was late to school and the only times I got detention was due to the bus. I know it sucks but, to be fair it was a city bus and not a school bus. There wasn't any yellow busses for our school.
Right. I went to a private school (K-12), and I remember that teachers would waive most tardies for elementary kids because they knew they had no control over what time they got to school. One kid in my 4th grade class was driven by his older brother and was late pretty much every day. I remember him walking in and the teacher being like, older brother decide not to get out of bed till 7:30 (school started at 8) this morning and they would both laugh.
It wasn't until middle school that I remember tardies actually becoming a "thing" and that was because we were switching classes, etc, and it was something that we could control.
Yep, we send out Emails and attendance for the first period of the day is handled accordingly. That said, if you try to be a clever shit and dick around in the hallway an extra 20 minutes you're busted.
Same. There would be an announcement to tell everyone not to mark us absent. Of course sometimes nobody from the late bus would remember to go to the office to tell them to make that announcement and we would all walk in and be marked late.
People say there are only some bad ones but the bad ones own you for a year. You can do a lot of damage in that time.
I got my mom to raise hell because my lazy fuck of a PE teacher would take her sweet ass time letting us back into the locker rooms so we'd have all of literally 3 minutes to change and get to class.
School admin didn't give a shit when us kids complained, but it took literally one parent complaint to get that teacher to toe the line.
That’s all it takes, my entire family are teachers and you’d be astounded the problems that never get brought up outside a single teachers sphere of influence and the blanket ignoring of student complaints. At least in their experience, administrations are extremely dismissive of anything the kids have to say and teachers face way more backlash than they ever should if they bring up what the students are complaining about (ie, other teachers causing problems). But one Karen yells at a vice principal and suddenly the world turns on its head for a few weeks while the administration falls all over itself to fix the problem finally.
I get why they are dissmisive of students, but why ignore teachers?
I had one teacher who would hold us after the bell for a few minutes if she didn't like what we told her what we had for breakfast, so we would be late for our next class.
I'm poor, and oatmeal was breakfast again, sorry Mrs. Tuttle.
Wait, what‽ In what context would your choice of breakfast be her business? Did you ever make up a fancy feast or something ridiculess like saber-tooth lion sandwich after her mother's recipe?
What's her problem with oatmeal?
That would never fly today
Mrs. Tuttle: " What did you have for breakfast, Tyler?"
Tyler: " DEEZ NUTZ!"
Did you go to WCS in Miami?
That's wild. There's people in Britain who argue that all a poor person needs for breakfast is Oatmeal.
Sometimes I wonder how I got through school at all. If a teacher tried to do that to me back then I'd say no that's dumb you stand.
I recall some of my teachers would punish the group for the actions of a few or even just 1. Then I would over the top r/blunderyears style crack my knuckles over my head very obnoxiously and say the likelihood of that kid getting beat up after school just went up significantly.
My hope was that the teacher would take the bluff and rethink that stupid fucking idea or send me to the principal so I would have some context to explain and involve the principal and have the group punishment be dissolved.
But they just ignore it.
As a teen shithead I wouldn't have cared about the collective punishment, probably would have antagonized the teacher more honestly. I do not know how I graduated honestly, I was a dick.
Some dumb teachers punished us when our parents couldn't pay the school fees in time or couldn't buy us new shoes.
Yeah or the stupid 3 ring binders that just HAD to be the right size, god forbid it’s 1/4 inch wrong
Seriously, I don’t think I ever filled one up entirely. Just suggest an appropriate size and let the kid figure it out from there if it’s too big or small.
Or when the folders that you will literally never use are not the exact color they want. I swear I had so much unused stuff from primary school I still have some remaining supplies for Uni right now.
As if growing up poor doesn't suck bad enough already...
Oh yeah, that too.
It snowed where I lived, but not where my high school was, making our bus late quite often in the winter. We finally got to the school in the middle of second period, so when I walked in super late, my teacher acted as if I was lying when I said the bus was late. That would be a pretty dumb excuse to make since it's easily proven.
My bus was the city bus in high school, that the school provided us with bus passes so we could ride for free. Mine had about 20 or so kids on it and had to go over train tracks. We’d inevitably get stopped at least once a week and be up to an hour late and the school quit believing us and wanted to punish us for it. Like, okay, yeah sure. 20 kids all came up with the same lie every week. Plus all they had to do was call the company to verify.
Teachers did this kind of shit so you would be mad at your parents because it was easier than them calling. This was back when teachers were paid adequately too, so what the fuck was their excuse?
Like nowadays, teachers working an extra part time job and doing task bunny or whatever it's called, I get they just don't have the energy, but back then? Man, fuck that.
A friend of mine teaches grade school.
She does video courses for a few websites that require a subscription. Parents ask what can we do to help our kid. Follow this link use this promo code and have your kid go through a few different teachers on the same subject. She got paid for her videos and got paid a cut of what people paid in subscription rates.
That is such bullshit. When my students are late because of the bus we get an email excusing then. Don’t blame kids for things outside of their control.
If a student shows up consistently late, I pull them aside and ask them what is going on. Usually they have a younger sibling to take care of or mom works early, so there is no one to get them up in the morning. Blaming the kid increases instances of truancy, not the other way around.
You sound like a very good teacher please continue to do what you do. My aunt always said if a kid isn’t performing to the standard it’s almost always an outside issue, like trouble at home or extenuating circumstances.
I had the legit flu and bronchitis once and I was out for about four days. I got back, and my science teacher asked why I didn’t complete the homework. Mind you; they had started a whole new topic and I missed all information about it. She acted as if I had lied about even being sick and called me out in front of the class. My mom ended up calling and the teacher ended up getting disciplined. After that one day though, I was out four more days. When I came back the next time, she had a completely different approach
This happened to me at my first job out of college. I had the flu. Went to the doctor and tested positive for the flu. Doctor told me (with a note) not to go to work for the rest of the week (2 days) as I worked in a call center with a lot of people. Got back to work on Monday and was written up for attendance issues because I didn't seem that sick and probably could have worked from home. I quit later that month.
This is where you say no and sit down, and the teacher can deal with it. It's a teacher, not the cops.
They always say you should have gotten to the bus earlier
The school bus, not public bus. School buses typically only stop at each stop once when picking up.
Don't talk back to me, Jeremiah!!! Am going to speak with your father about this
Rachel found a way to get out of working for a whole period while still getting paid.
We weren't punished, but it was considered tardy even if the bus was late. If the bus was too late, we'd all be marked absent for the day because my school district used to do that if you got to school like 2 hours or more late without it being excused.
Sounds like a good excuse to just skip school for the day lol
I’m assuming that woman was just sadistic. She knew it wasn’t going to fix the buses and she knew it wasn’t your fault; she just wanted to punish a bunch of children. I had a high school teacher like this.
I had a teacher who gave me detention for going to a school track meet. The vice principal and my coach acted like there was nothing they could do. I still don't understand it.
Yeah, that’s illegal now (and may have been then, too, depending on the state/county you live in). It’s considered corporal punishment.
They wanted you to put pressure on your parents. I went home and tried to guilt my mom into dropping me off earlier, but she had other plans. We went to Goodwill that weekend and I became the owner of a used bike and rides to school would never happen again.
I'm glad we've got busses in our area because there's very little chance I could drop my kids off at school at 7:30 then make it across town by 8:00 in rush hour traffic.
I get what you are saying, but that's the total wrong way to go about it though.
Placing blame on a child and making them feel like they are doing something wrong when they have no control over it is messed up.
Have some balls and say something to the parent. Don't put that on the kid.
Have some balls and say something to the parent
Have some balls and say something to the parent
This is how many teachers find themselves without a job. School administration does not have a teacher's back when they speak up to parents.
But again. That's not the kids fault or their problem. Figure this shit out without involving the kid.
Unfortunately, the kid is the point that has the weakest ability to push back so that's where it gets aimed.
Stuff like this that happened as a kid is why I speak out against bullshit rules and administration. If you hate it, remember it, change it and make sure it never happens again when you're older, wiser and in the room.
There definitely needs to be more people like that working in school administration. As it is now, it's mostly people chasing funding who prostrate themselves to the lowest common denominator of parents to keep them happy at the expense of education quality.
It's unfortunate that the most passionate teachers seem to avoid going into administration.
So don't do shit, it's not the kids fault either
Sounds like teachers should put some pressure on the adminstration then, huh?
In a perfect world, sure. But that's just not realistic - you can't put pressure on your boss in the real world, or you get fired.
And sometimes a kid can't put pressure on their parents in the real world, or you're liable to get an ass whooping.
If only your country had unions
That's the best part - I'm Canadian. We have teacher's unions. That really doesn't help when administration gets ideas in their head. They won't fire you, they'll just double the class size for the other teacher of your grade and oopsie, looks like there isn't room in the budget to extend your contract for another year!
Storm the school administration! They can't fire all of us!
We need a Stewie sideways glance here.
I'm my area parents have to go to court if their kids miss too much school.
Here, too. Only a certain number of absences can be excused by parents. The idea makes sense, until you realize it very directly conflicts with the rules about not coming in when sick.
Really, no fucking doctor wants to waste his time because your kid had a 100.1 fever, but it's the only way to get them excused.
And that's before considering the cost that a lot of families can't afford for unnecessary appointments.
Lol, you must overestimate the amount of pull that teachers have with administration. By a lot.
Just like the teachers are overestimating the amount of pull that a kid has on their transportation schedule.
You missed the point, I was being sarcastic.
They should, but like most people, they need their job to survive and generally lose those battles everytime anyway.
How is the police union strong enough to get the guy who killed Daniel shaver re-hired but the teachers union can’t protect teachers from entitled parents?
Also often the strictness on being tardy comes from the Administration. Some schools have their funding affected by things like attendance and tardiness by the district, so if kids are late they are punished with a lower budget next year. It goes much deeper than asshole teachers, it goes way up to the school district head/mayors office sometimes and they just want to see good statistics so they can say the school has improved.
“I have more job security if i play games to psychology harm children in an effort to use them as pawns against their parents than if i talk to the parent. I’ll do the psycho thing.” Is just how I want my teachers behaving.
That’s why you unionize.
Unfortunately for teachers, at least here in Canada, that doesn't work. Sure, they can't be fired anymore, but teachers are one of the least-respected professions out there, and no one gives a shit if their union is being busted or disrespected.
Speak out against the admin? Well, they can't fire you, but they definitely can double-up your class size to make you quit, or just refuse to renew your yearly contract when summer rolls around.
Until the populace, and the politicians that somehow keep sneaking in to office, start showing the tiniest amount of care or concern for teachers, they are helpless.
We just failed at helping teachers here in Manitoba. Yesterday was our provincial election. We had a record-low voter turnout, and the party that runs on anti-healthcare and anti-education and anti-environment won a majority government again, so despite being unionized, our teachers and nurses are even less powerful now than they were before, and conditions will only continue to degrade for them. Unions are not a "fix everything" solution.
Half the time when I confront parents about their children always being late, their excuse is that their child just never gets ready quickly enough. Last year the problem got so out of hand that I started to offer the chance to win a sticker each morning if you arrived on time (6yos will to anything for a sticker). Combined with emails to parents it actually improved my attendance. I don’t think that shaming a child is the right way to go though.
Well its the parents fault they cant get the kids out on time...
I don't know if it's board policy in my province, but one school I work at has the secretary call home after so many lates/absences and tells the parents they have x weeks to fix it or they'll call children's aid. Most of the kids start showing up on time after that.
Arizona requires a parenting class on what not to do with children when parents are separated. There’s a massive portion dedicated to the negative effects this has on children.
"Welcome to life, you're gonna get blamed for shit that isnt your fault"
I don't remember but my mum corrected my kinder teacher about this once. She goes 'You've just called my child a liar when she was telling the truth. She was ready. I made her late.' Go mum.
They wanted a 7 year old to put pressure on their parents? Really? How about they call home because they’re an adult and talk to the adult in charge of the child they’re teaching. Absolutely no excuse to put that on a little kid.
This is absolutely how it should be done, but the reality makes doing this a risk. A lot of administrations would have your ass if that parent called them back and complained about you complaining about the child being late. At best, they're going to tell you to never do that again.
The mentality of a lot of parents is kind of bonkers and it's reflected in administration policies. The shit parents enable is actually kind of mind-numbing.
Dude I deadass got so many detentions when my dad dropped me off late because he slept in (and we lived too far for biking or walking to be an option)
WTF? Your kids must be that precise in school?
Where I live, schools open at 7:15 while classes start at 8:00.
Also at primary school there was free "childcare" with educator overseeing it where parents could drop off their kids at 6:00 and the kids went to classrooms at 7:45.
My middle school made you stand outside until 5 minutes before homeroom (it was right outside of Chicago, so it got COLD).
Do you live somewhere magical, like Sweeden or some shit??
Live in Finland, can confirm. I had a baby polar bear unicorn to ride to school and public transport always runs on time (especially VR).
Wait is the school bring open before classes start unusual? My school district in California does that
My parents almost never got me to school on time I didn’t really care what the teachers said because I knew the worst they could do was tell my parents who obviously didn’t care. One time I was leisurely walking down the stairs to my school 5 minutes late and a girl in a grade below me was late running and crying. Right as she got to me she tripped and fell down like 10 steps and cracked her head open. I sat there with her til her dad came then kept walking to class and I’ll i could think about is how I had the perfect excuse for why I was late today.
Dude that is exactly my situation right now with having to drop off my daughter at 7:30 and make it to class by 8. The school refuses to let us drop them off earlier than 7:30 too!! Wtf! What time does the bus pick them up for you?
Bus shows up around 6:35 but we're one of the early stops. There's a stop I can take them to when they miss but I can't take them all the way to school.
They wanted you to put pressure on your parents.
They wanted you to put pressure on your parents.
That's just wrong. Fuck those types of teachers. If they got problems with my parents then call them. Don't fucking punish me for something I have no control over.
Bro what’s worse is if you rode the school bus in the morning but somehow it’s your fault if it’s late. Even if there’s 2 or 3 of y’all that show up late because of it, Mrs. Johnson’s bitch ass still puts all of y’all on blast first thing in the morning and threatens to write you up if you “talk back”.
I had a history teacher named Mrs. Johnson. Really sweet old lady outside of class, but in class or in her homeroom you were her bitch and you better listen or your ass was in the principal's office. Plus she made US history so hard compared to other teachers in that high school. If anyone talked back she screeched at you.
Mega long shot but what state was this? Georgia?
Nope. New Jersey
Man, why tf is always the johnson causing problems. I hate them
I had a teacher like that in middle school. I come from a very rural area, to the point id be picked up by the bus at around 5am and get to school at 7:30am. So the bus would be taking backroads and we got caught behind farmers and various animals pretty often. I would be anywhere from 15-30 late to my first class about once a week, it was fine, it was things that no one could control. This one teacher though, she wouldn’t have it. I eventually racked up enough write ups for either being late, or just politely telling her to shove it, that my mom was notified. The next day hellfire rained on the school because my mom came in asking for a ration explanation, for me getting in trouble for things that I couldn’t control. That was a fun hour long parent, teacher, and administration conference.
A true u/bonafidehustler would take the wheel of that bus.
Sounds like Ms Stevens knew you were gonna be full of shit.
Just reading this pissed me off, my dumbass teacher used to do this all the time.
I was like 13 or something and the buses were off so I walked to school (only 3 miles but I was pretty chubby at that age) on a hot summers day so I was late. My teacher said she saw me walking and said that wasnt an excuse because I should have ran. Screw you lady, I'm 13 and fat and legitimately hated school at the time, I wish I'd walked slower.
3 miles is quite a lot for a 13-year-old especially if you have to do it again in the afternoon, usually schools don't want you walking unless you're less than a mile away.
Ikr and I was thinking "do you see my fat ass? You really see me running?"
This bitch saw you walking and didn't offer a ride either
I know right, bitch
P.e teachers the best for this usually since most times they like the job but I had one that would pick people up that they saw on way and dropped off if was close was awesome guy. Most teachers usually teach by control over respect which makes you hated and noone listens.
"The only reason I even bothered to show up is because you guys would send the cops after me if I didnt. You can put my butt in the chair, but you can't force me to learn anything!"
I swear to god when I was 8 i had to go to the hospital for something really small that only took like two days. When I got back to class I told my teacher and she told me that you didn’t go to the hospital for that kind of thing but to a clinic. This bitch was straight up pressuring me and I was just like « do you think I’m the one that took myself to the hospital ??? Wtf do I know about that ? »
Like the LPN school nurse is some kind of urgent care center LMAO
I've had the opposite problem as a teacher. When I tell my students' parents that they haven't been doing homework or studying for spelling tests, the parents say the kid must've forgotten. They're kindergartners. They're not responsible yet! The parents have to be on top of that shit. Besides, they know I don't care about homework. They can just write me a note and I won't even make the kid do it.
Stop assigning kindergartners homework and studying. What’s wrong with you?
I had homework in kindergarten, it was stuff like "color this picture" or "circle all the words that begin with A". Never had to study but a tiny bit of work to take home got me used to the idea for later years.
Agreed. My homework in kindergarten was fun. It was coloring or seek and find pictures or read an interesting kids book or some sort of game like thing. It made studying fun and it did prepare me for getting older and more homework.
I don’t think people realize the sheer amount of work you have to do outside of class in college to succeed. It’s a lot. I spent more time doing class related work outside of the class room than in an actual class.
I don’t think five year olds should get serious homework that gets numerical grades held against them. They should get some fun after school activities that reinforce the lessons and rewarded for extra effort, not punished for lack thereof. Positive reinforcement is so much more powerful than negative as multiple studies have shown.
I never did homework in college besides cramming for exams and writing papers. Def depends on major though. I have a degree in business and psych and minor in history. But my gf she studied so hard...I just didn’t have the patience or care much for getting Amazing grades.
Definitely depends on your major tho.
It's not my choice. I absolutely agree that it's not helpful to them whatsoever which is why I tell their parents to just write me a note if they don't want them to do it. However, my school requires me to send it home and communicate with parents when it's not done. The tests are also schoolwide and not my choice.
What happens if you just don't? Is there an audit of their crayola scribbles?
I have a Korean coteacher who makes sure it goes home. Besides, most of the parents want the homework. They would be upset if I didn't send it.
It's not crayon scribbles. They have pages with vocabulary words that they need to use in a sentence. Then reading comprehension, grammar, and math. It's actually really hard.
They are at school for 8 hours a day what is the teacher doing, watching tv?
I teach in Korea, and my students are doing 2nd grade American books. Their homework would be difficult for native speakers 2 years older than them. It's too much and I hate the curriculum, but it's not my choice.
Damn...im sorry to hear that, that's a crazy curriculum
And this is why Americans are so behind in education. This is the attitude parents take about their kids' learning. Zero reinforcement at home and then they're just wondering why our 7th graders consistently read at a 3rd grade level. It's saddest for the kids, really.
Kindergarten "homework" is like a worksheet on shapes that takes 5 minutes. If parents can't be assed to reinforce the most basic levels of responsibility, and more importantly show the kid that they have an interest in their schooling, don't be shocked when it's downhill from there.
In the US, kindergarten is typically only 3 hours long.
Edit: Based on the comments below, I investigated the prevalence of half vs full day kindergarten in the US. Apparently half-day kindergarten (3 hours) is on the downward trend, and full-day (6 hours) makes up more than half of classes in the total US. However, I don't know of any elementary age classes that are 8 hours long.
Not everywhere. My middle daughter started this year and it's all day.
Interesting. Thanks for the info. Upon investigation it seems like half-day kindergarten is only typical in California (where I live). In the rest of the US, it's split between half and full day kindergarten.
Still even at 6 hours that is more than enough instruction for the day at 5 years old.
No you are just making a generalization based upon your own experiences. My younger brothers go to kindergarten for the full day, and I am in the United States.
This is untrue in my experience. I had the same hours in kindergarten as everyone else in elementary school, it was something like 7:45-3:00.
That's usually pre-K
Both my parents have worked as teachers and they are at home grading and planning lessons and thinking about what they can do to help their students. Teaching is a time consuming job where you often bring your work home with you. Even kindergarten teachers have to plan lessons and relevant activities.
As I've said to others, it's not my choice. That's why I give the parents the option to opt out...... which I'm not supposed to do.
Is this not a thing everyone did? I went to kindergarten in 2001 and we had homework 3 to 4 times a week. I'm in the US.
So did I. It didn’t make any sense and there’s no reason for it. You and I being raised in dumb ways doesn’t mean others should be.
Oh I definitely don't disagree. I'm just baffled that this seems to be somewhat universal because I grew up in an ass backwards school district.
Kindergarten in the early 80s here. I know I had homework in first grade and on, hours of if honestly, but can't remember any in kindergarten.
So in the USA Kindergarten starts at age 5
Most countries provide similar, including 'homework' at ages 5
You know, the things 5 year olds should be learning- especially from the parents!
My mum was working part time but by age 5 I knew the very basics of these things- my reading and spelling was ahead of most of the kids, my maths similar and I could write my name and some other words (really bad handwriting but vaguely readable- and was starting to write simple-complex sentences) all because my mum took her job as a parent seriously and educated me.
Many 5 year olds now do not know the basics of any of these things- which means
1) schools have mixed groups of kids that they need to assess in order for correct level of work to be gave to them
2) homework may be needed for kids who are that far behind to catch up
3) your never too young to learn about structure, routine and expectations for school work
Maybe it's just me being a nerd lol but at that age, my homework was fun (except maths, which I sucked at, and Art which I also really struggled with)
My favourite time was after school sitting on the couch with my mum reading the school books, and getting excited at going up a level lol.
Nw I'm not a genius (far from it lol) but something is very wrong when a neurotypical kid can't write their name, add 2+2 or read a basic book by the time they start formal schooling.
People are freaking out. Schools aren't giving 5 year olds 10 hours of work to do every day after school or punishing them if it's not complete. It's a completely normal process of maybe 2 hours 'work' a week at that age. - and as the teacher above said, all the parents would have to do is say 'my kid didn't do the homework' no big deal
My daughters home school (school she is assigned to based on where we live) assigns three hours per day of mandatory homework. Although that is not typical the amount of homework assigned to young children is ridiculous. They have almost zero time to play or socialize during school hours and NEED that after school time to use their brain in ways that actually benefit them.
I'm glad that was your experience, but school now is a different ballgame. They do not treat kids like kids. All they care about is test scores.
Source: former teacher, kinder parent, degree in Child Development. My passion is kids, I spend my life reading and learning about what they need and how to help them. Homework is NOT what they need.
need to kill their creativity and induct them into the system even earlier. /s
I kid but I do believe school strips away the imagination that kids have
Korea. Yes, it's insane what these kids can do. You should see the four page essays they write in class with me every week or two!
Do you teach private school? My wife taught kindergarten in a catholic school for a couple years and homework was part of the curriculum. The answers didn't have to be right but the kids did have to turn something in. I don't think she graded any of them. Just mainly used for benchmarking/assessment purposes and shared in PTCs.
Yeah. It's for a big education company in Korea. Everything is corporate. I actually just quit cause it was eating my soul...... also my manager was the most incompetent person I've ever worked for.
now college profs be the ones walking in 30 mins late -_-
The best one I remember was a professor canceling class by posting a letter on the door of the classroom, instead of sending the class an email. So we all woke up at the buttcrack of dawn and showered and all that, walked across campus, only to find it was for nothing.
he knew what he was doing. he wanted y’all to get up and get shit done instead of sleep in
instead of having to deal with 20+ students all emailing their vitriol.
instead of having to deal with 20+ students all emailing their vitriol.
I'd imagine that more people would be pissed at what he did instead.
Ours did that too. For a Saturday class! But we forgave him. His daughter was born that morning
what in the actual fuck, what year was this
From 2000 to 2001. I was early after that since we moved really close to the school so all I had to do was walk about 10 minutes but things didn’t get better tho. Till 10th Standard/Grade they did this stupid thing which many other schools did where if a few kids would talk or were troublesome they’d cane the entire freakin class.
You mean Singapore? No I’m from Bangalore, India.
Ah. Missed the part where you mentioned Indian, my bad.
I'm sorry that happened to you. Teachers can be really cruel. When I was in first grade I had a teacher that would hit you in the head with a stick or grab you by the hair and shake you as punishment. Years later, that's the only thing I remember about her.
Oh man that’s nasty. Yeah I wish I could give you and everyone else in the comment section a hug.
As of late I’ve been fortunate to be a camp counsellor once every year. Nothing beats creating an environment where kids can feel safe but at the same time learn crucial life skills and boldness. I feel like that’s the best form of revenge. I mean sure teaching almost every day in a year is really stressful but being a psychopath and torturing kids because your life is tough is just stupid. I really hope those people found a healthy outlet or changed their ways.
cries in homeschooled
Wouldnt be the first time
Did you miss social interactions with peers during home schooling?
Did not realise how much I was missing out on till I went to school in 10th grade
Oh my god yes, I did. Was homeschooled kindergarten through highschool and it was lonely, miserable and left me way behind academically. I know it's a literal life saver for some kids, but it really depends on the kid and on their parents.
How do you feel about new online high schools or k-12 programs? Do you think the new ones from like Stanford would’ve helped you not be behind academically?
Homeschooling is the sheet, homie
Especially if your teacher was hot
That's what she said when he got up from his studies
Only if his arms were broken
Funny thing is back in elementary school my gf's parents actually got sad smiley stickers when they brought her in late because they knew everyone was being taken by their parents and it wasn't the 7 yo mfers fault
Wait - muss dont kids go to school by bus or (when they are living to close for that) by bike?
It seems to be awfully ineffective to drive every child to school every day
American school systems are even worse than you can imagine. I don’t want to drive my kid to school, so I’ll let him use the bus! Wait, you can’t be within a mile and a half of the school, or further than 3 miles, or else you don’t get bus service. Alright, I’ll give my kid a bike! Wait, his school banned bikes because one student ran over another student’s foot with their tire 5 years ago. I wish I was joking.
Bikes are banned for some schools?!!!
Wtf is this madness - Americans sure give us Germans a good run for being the most car-centered country...
I went to a medium-sized highschool in the American south. The kids who lived in the nice neighborhood behind the school could probably walk or take a bike. Most of us were much too far away, and bikes wouldn't have been safe on our roads anyway. Nearly everyone drove to school or took a bus.
I used to have to catch the bus at 620 am, school started at 7:55 am.
Most kids are driven to school by their parents in my city.
Dude this triggered so many angry memories in my head. I was like 30 minutes late most days when I was in elementary school. My mom would always be super hard to wake up in the morning and then she would always stop for a McDonald's coffee no matter how late we already were. I remember teachers being upset with me for it too and even losing my recess for weeks at a time because of it. I just kinda dealt with it at the time but fuck did it suck.
How’s your relationship with your mom these days?
That's def living in a bubble
When I started working as a teacher, students who were late got a 15mn detention at the end of the day. I made sure we stopped doing that. Parents are responsible, kids are only the victims of their parent's lack of responsibility.
So if the morning bus was late they were held long enough to miss the afternoon bus?
When I was in second grade my parents would always drive me to school and they’d always be late. My teacher would punish me basically every day. She would scream at me for a good 5 minutes, make me stand in front of the class and apologize for being late and then take my break away. It got to the point where I was terrified of going to school. Every morning I woke up and my anxiety would skyrocket. Every time my parents were late I’d start bawling. After a while, I started faking being sick when I was late so I’d stay home and not have to face my screaming teacher and I started being absent A LOT. Really teachers, it’s not the kids’ fault at 6/7 they have basically no control over when they get to school.
As a teacher I've learned to ask "Is everything OK?" rather than "Why are you late?" Putting a kid on the spot like that scares the little ones more than a lot of people seem to think. It's less accusatory and most of the time it was out of their control, or private and is best kept between me, them, and their family/guardians.
If the kid is a few minutes late consistently at least I know I can contact someone since it's become a pattern. If their parents have a really tight morning schedule I'll try to have the kid's assigned seat near the door so they can just slip in quietly if there isn't much that can be done about it.
I once forgot to take my homework to school and only remembered on the way there, so I rang my dad in tears and he drove all the way down with it. Then when I got my marks back for the homework another day and they were poor I said my dad made me do chores so I didn’t have time to do it properly. I was an asshole
Lol playing all sides ya hustler
A lot of the time I had to wait for a while after school because my dad was too busy to come pick me up on time.
I forgot about early release the first week of school last year and cried the 7min drive to get my son, I felt like absolute garbage and took him for ice cream afterwards. I couldn’t imagine being too busy and if I was I would arrange for someone else to pick him up. How old were you? I’m crossing my fingers it wasn’t elementary school age.
I'm talking about the time I was in around 2nd or 3rd grade. We'd moved a bit away from my school during that time. Changed schools new year.
I remember getting a warning in elementary school because of my repeated tardiness. 3 warnings would get you a detention. I was shocked. It's not my fault my parents have no concept of time and doesn't care enough to drop their child on time. So why should my school file be affected because of them??? Send a message to the parents, but don't punish the kid!
I had a fit about this last year. They were doing group punishment for kids who were late to athletics in the mornings (which started 30 minutes before the rest of school) and if any kid was late everyone got punished. It created so much stress at home in the mornings with my 11 year old basically having a breakdown any time she thought we might be late. The one day we actually were late (the only time we had ever been late) she basically lost her mind and cried all the way to school.
I politely wrote an email to the coach explaining that this was unacceptable and she basically said "tough, win as a team or lose as a team". So I replied that I'd be taking my daughter out of athletics now and what time was a good time for her to meet with me and the principal to discuss why I was removing my daughter from her program.
Ultimately I got a much more friendly email from the head of the athletics department saying they had no desire to put that kind of pressure on kids and would change their policy.
Same thing was said to a lot of my fellow classmates who were POC ...all of us rode the school bus from the other side of the city...
One time my teacher even made me stay late and miss the bus, boy my mom was pissed at her.
My kids get put into silent lunch if I fail to sign their planners. I asked the teacher how my kid gets punished for my lack of action, and they flat out told me its their response to pester me. We strongly disagreed and I now sign it for whole month in advance, thus ruining the great communication tool because now I have no reason to try and remember to look at it.
"Silent lunch" is a phrase I haven't heard in a long time, and it brings by a ton of shit memories hahaha.
Couldn’t you have just signed the kids planner?
Usually it's a weekly thing. If you're working full time and have multiple kids it's easy to forget these things.
Who would work so much for so Little?
I ran my first grade teacher out of detentions and one day she didn’t give me one. I was late every single day, and in detention for a total of 262 days my first year in public school. Got 145 detentions in 2nd grade, 50 in 3rd grade, 10 in 4th, and like 2 in 5th grade. Got my act together
You can count on Teachers to make all sorts of brainless, vindictive comments
Student: "May I go to the washroom?"
Teacher: "No, you should have went 20 minutes ago during your lunch break!"
Do you understand how the bladder and kidney system works, you dumb fuck?
Oh man! I peed my pants in the fourth grade because the teacher refused to let me go to the restroom, even though I begged numerous times and tried to explain it was an emergency.
I was a good kid who didn’t abuse bathroom privileges. She just didn’t care.
I had so many terrible teachers who did the same shit. Unfortunately a lot of Teachers are doing the job for the powertrip they enjoy over a bunch of kids.
I teach grades 3-5 and almost EVERY teacher says this to the students who come late. And this post is my response.
My favorite was that our school had the required elective "health" class. The dude who taught it was so obese he'd sweat like a stuck pig just standing in front of class.
He'd go on and on about personal responsibility... well our school was on a major freeway intersection so a person could easily get stuck in 30 minutes of traffic only a mile away from the offramp. You had to leave 20 minutes early if you lived across the freeway just because it was so bad.
The kids in his class got chewed out if they were late, but he'd regularly use the traffic (that everyone knew about) as an excuse if he showed up late.
The guy was a walking hypocrisy.
I got detention in 5th grade for being late to many times, all because my mom wouldn't get out of bed in time.
One time in grade 6 on my way to school our family van started smoking up and my mom pulled over, obviously. A family friend came to help and drove me to school. As a result, I was late to school by about 10 minutes. When my teacher asked in front of the class why I was late, I stuttered, holding back tears, saying my van broke down. The teacher said inexcusable.
Can you imagine, a tiny 60lb 12 year old, holding tears back still made it to school and thus dumb b*tch said my excuse of being late was inexcusable????
This is in Toronto,Canada.
In elementary school for math class we would have this sheet of paper with boxes that you got a signature in whenever you turned in your homework. When the boxes were full, you'd get a prize or something. I loved math back then and I'd always do my homework, but I'd often forget the sheet to have signed off. I'd have to get a new one halfway through because I misplaced the last one, just leave it home or something, etc. Which was fine by me because I didn't really want/need a prize.
Anyway one day I called my mom a little before math class in the school office because I was developing a migraine (I got them pretty often when I was young), was feeling really bad, and I asked her if she would be able to pick me up. And then I went to math class. We took our homework out and our homework signed sheet thing and our teacher was going around signing all of them. But then she got to me and I didn't have mine. And for some reason she was PISSED about it. She asked me where it was and I said "I don't have it." And she goes, "You don't have it, WHAT?" And here I was, with a migraine, like a good kid in school who never gets yelled at, being yelled at. So I was like "um...I'm sorry.. I don't have it...ma'am??" I really didn't know what she wanted me to say. She was exasperated but I guess that satisfied her enough because she moved on. A little bit after this I was called to the office and picked up for the day.
The next day the teacher apologized to me. I can't really remember what she said about it, just that she apologized. But after that she wasn't my favorite teacher anymore lol.
Mine knew it wasn’t my responsibility, but I think she wanted to instill in me the responsibility and importance of being on time, and she did.
My wife does her damnedest to make me late now, and I’m not having it 😒😒.
My 7th grade teacher got on my ass about this. Something I have no control over. I missed two days one time due to a car accident and my parents said they told my school. Found out they didn’t. Walked in to 1st period and she said what excuse do you have this time? Yeah sorry I couldn’t make it I was in a car accident. Car flipped three times. Her tune changed so fucking fast it was glorious.
As I get older, I'm realizing how many things teachers said and did were dumb as fuck and completely unreasonable.
Positive reinforcement people.
9 times out of 10 it’s better to reward the behavior you want, rather than punishing the behavior you’re trying to stop. Reason being kids just want attention. Doesn’t really matter if it’s positive or negative. If you reward the kid who’s consistently on time (with a sticker or something) and ignore the kid who’s late, you reinforce the positive behavior in the on-time kid, and eventually the late kid figures out that if they want a sticker too, then they need to be on time.
I agree with the sentiment that in most situations the kid is not in control of whether they’re on time or not. But rewarding the positive behavior in this case is both preferable from a behavior modification standpoint, and doesn’t really negatively impact the late kid.
Side note, positive reinforcement works on adults too.
Teacher perspective (high school but still): you’re absolutely correct. Go to school board meetings at tell your elected representatives to support Restorative Justice models. That reaction is a weird consequence of punitive culture and feeds the school to prison pipeline. Structural changes are only one part but needs to be a part for any sort of change.
Ugh this reminds me of when I used to do altar service for church for evening mass and sometimes my mom would drop us off slightly late. Well, one time it was later than usual and of course the whole mass had to wait for us to start. Then during the mass, the priest leaned over and whispered how shameful it was we were late not realizing that the mic would pick it up. 8 year old me felt so humiliated and after mass the priest found out everyone could hear him he came to apologize. Still felt so upset and glad I didn’t do that for long.
My friend used to get detention every three days for being late because his parents couldn’t get him there on time. We were nine and a mile and a half away from school and you had to cross three busy streets to get there. Plus there was a high school next to the elementary school so if you had them walking to school late then you may have to deal with bullies. I did the walk home sometimes but the walk home you were with a group all leaving at the same time so more safety in numbers and not on a time limit.
My parents made me go to religion class every school day before regular school. I didnt bother explaining to first period teacher why i was often late. They of course insisted students had no other responsibility in the morning then getting to "school" on time.
My parents constantly made me late throughout my primary school due to... just bad parenting in general to keep it short, the school system in Florida decided that a kid who has too many unexcused tardiness should be penalized with bad grades and therefore when I got into the sixth grade I was put in remedial classes. Then my parents thought I was autistic until I got to a counselor in the next school and begged to be put in regular classes. Yay.
This is what you wanted to say but end up didn't.
I got detention in the third grade for tardiness at 8 years old because my mom has never been on time to anything in her entire life.
I had a similar discussion w/ my wife a few days ago. I was recalling when I was in grade school whenever we would have interesting or unusual stuff for show-and-tell or we'd go on field trips some teachers would always repeat this mantra, "See with your eyes, NOT with your hands!" In other words, "don't touch stuff!" As a kid I always thought that was kinda dumb.
Now as an adult I believe that really is a stupid thing to tell children. For them a big part of experiencing the world is physical touch. Understanding what something feels like is gaining an understanding of the world around you. Sure children need to be taught boundaries and restraint but I don't think it's appropriate to take children to places where there's a whole bunch of interesting stuff and then tell them, "Don't touch ANYTHING in here!" That's just fucking stupid! How about teaching them to respect things and handle them w/ care?!
I've got a life long hatred of being late now because when I was in karate class middle/high school every time we were late we'd get punishments like 50 push ups, running laps, cleaning duty etc. Class was at 6, I got home by 4, it was a 10 minutes drive on a bad day only on Tuesday and Thursday. Without fail my parents made me late some 75% of classes despite my brother and I pleading for them to get up as we got dressed immediately once we were home.
Teacher kept saying it was our fault we were late but my dude, we can't drive and my mom is too overprotective to let us bus here. How is this my fault they can't keep a schedule
My mom was an abusive neglectful bitch, who was always too busy doing her hair to leave on time for my school day. I’d get up super early bc I was paranoid about being late to High School.
Anyway 3 tardies got you detention and you can bet I was in there copying lines for the nun (all girls catholic school.) I was 14 I had no control over my mom FFS.
Damn I had to walk to school every day lol
I had to walk to my bus stop each day. Impressed?
This also didn't work when I was 15 and needed my perpetually late brother to give me a ride.
Waited like 15 years to say this, right?
In elementary school (4th or 5th grade or so) we had a principal that put up a stop light in the cafeteria room. She claimed the spotlight reacted to sound and the louder it got the light would go from yellow to red. If the light ever hit red, the entire school would have to eat in silence in the cafeteria. No whispering or anything of the sort. This was during LUNCH!?! Thinking back what was this b**** thinking?
That little hood rat kid who GTA’d his grandma’s car must be in that class
In high school I was late to first period so many times they suspended me from school for a day.... how much sense does that make? The class was on the opposite side of the school from where I arrived and I would pretty much sprint to class. On a few occasions the teacher would see me coming down the hall and would still close the door in front of me if the bell rang. Screw you Mr. Curtis
My 3rd grade teacher used to do this shit and would yell at me regardless of if I had a note or not. Anyway, one day she finally stopped. There was a 2 week-ish period where I was late every morning, and after like a week she decided to make an example of me in front of the class.
I tried to quietly sneak to my desk and she goes “Uh-uh young lady, get up here.” She then berated me in front of the whole class, saying I was irresponsible, disrespectful, and disorganized. (As a kid with undiagnosed ADHD, these were common complaints from my teachers and I was VERY insecure about coming across this way.) She said it was clearly my fault, and asked me to tell the class why I was late every morning this week.
I was so embarrassed and ashamed, and my eyes welled up with tears.
Teacher: “Oh great. You’re CRYING?! Don’t be a baby. Own up to your mistake and tell the class why you’ve been late.”
Me, now full-on crying:“M-my mom just had surgery and I have to help her get my sister ready for school and she’s really slow doing everything right now.”
Teacher said I was lying and made me go sit in the hallway where I cried some more.
At recess, she told me to wait while she called my mom to tell her what happened. But my mom WAS recovering from ulcer surgery and my stepdad was out of town for the week, leaving her to take care of us on her own.
When my mom confirmed my story, the teacher didn’t even acknowledge she was wrong.
Teacher: “Why hadn’t you called to let me know your daughter would be late this week?”
Mom: “I’m recovering from ulcer surgery and my husband is out of town. Also, she’s 8 years old, I didn’t think she’d be blamed for being late.”
My teacher NEVER apologized to me or even said anything to the rest of the class, after essentially saying I was a liar in front of everyone.
FUCK YOU Mrs. Ellis
Teachers are a different subspecies of human, most of em are just wired up wrong.
There’s this idea that “everything is your fault and taking responsibility for this is positive”. This is that Jocko Willink / Joe Rogan way of looking at the world. It seems to help them get through the day. They call it Extreme Ownership. It doesn’t work for me because I understand that there are things outside of my control, but some people like it
I think it's unfair to put that perspective on children, especially given context that the majority of children leave with parents/siblings to school or take the school bus.
Of course, even as adults we all know there's factors outside our control that we shouldn't have to personally take responsibility for, like the trains/buses getting delayed.
Oh I agree with you, I was just pointing out that there are people who think like this. I think it’s just rich people who have more control over their environment than the rest of us
Reminds me of a teacher I had in highschool who would always say things to the effect of 'this behavior won't fly when you get to college.' which wouldn't be totally unreasonable if we weren't at a technical highschool where like 10% of kids went to college and the rest just entered the work force.
and this is how you teach kids that authority figures can be wrong or unfair.
Which subsequently teaches kids that Authority isn't actually Authority.
This tweet is 100% one of those times when your mind kept you up late while you were trying to sleep, thinking about all those things you should of said or done 20 years ago. At least it was for me...
It's 'should have', never 'should of'.
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It's all conditioning for when you're an adult so you don't blame anyone but yourself for hardship. The reality is there are vastly more variables that are outside our control which contribute to ones success: Timing, environment, resources, brain chemistry, arbitrary standards set by those in power, and too many more to count.
I mustve been late at least over a hundred times in High School because I was dependant on my Brother, Mom and Dad to get ready. Now that I drive myself to work I'm somehow always on time, funny how thaf works 🤔🤔.
CHILD: (DRIVES THE CAR & PLOWS THROUGH SCHOOL KILLING 30 PEOPLE JUST TO BE ON TIME/EARLY)
shitty parents i would say
What is going through their mind when they say stuff like this? What do they expect little kids to do about it?
Any teachers here that can chime in?
Im assuming maybe they don't care but they have to say something like this so that the entire class doesn't just start showing up late and blaming their parents?
My whole life has been this.
They still do that 🙄 Even as a parent now, I find it stupid.
More like dumb ass parents for making their own children late. What a terrible habit to teach your own kid.
I’m a teacher and I avoid putting anything on a kid that’s their parents’ fault. Unfortunately, most teachers don’t belong in the profession, lots of em are dumb as hell, and honestly it pisses me tf off.
People think kids are just little adults. You end up with fucked up adults that way.
I was late every fucking day for elementary school. Me and my sisters would beg and plead for our Mom to get up to get us to school on time but she would always just be like “just five more minutes.” And then the teachers would make an example out of me for being late, which the other kids would learn to tease me. I couldn’t walk or ride a bike because we lived in a different part of town! Ugh such fond memories, fuck those teachers.
Dude!!! I remember that pain. It would bring so much anxiety on me. No wonder As an adult I’d rather be extremely early than late.
Get timeout all recess because your teacher forgot you existed. She left me on the playground more than once. Then I got in trouble for the next day for not being in class...and got timeout again. Shit was cyclical and I still hate you Mrs. Noal.
dumb ass teacher would prolly be like “excuses don’t cut it in the real world” 😂
Or when there was a traffic jam. Somehow that's my responsibility too
In middle school I got suspended from school because I got too many “tardies” from being late to school. Started with detention and then too many detentions led to suspension. I was a real trouble maker.
Not only do schools avoid teaching kids any emotional skills, they actively work to make things worse.
I just wrote my own late notes and signed my mom's name. Lol, man I remember one time when I was in elementary school we would get stamps every morning for getting our parents to sign our planner. Once we get enough stamps we would get to choose something from the treasure box. Well wouldn't ya know it, I was one stamp away from treasure box and my stupid ass forgot to tell my mom. I looked at previous signatures and just tried to copy hers as best as possible. The teacher believed it and gave me a stamp! But unfortunately, the kid next to me also forgot and also tried to copy his mom's signature...except he did it in his own handwriting so he got in trouble for lying and he didn't like me much after that. Probably because I didn't fess up for lying, but hey I got away with it, why would I fess up?? I felt pretty bad for a while but he should have known not to do it in his own handwriting. Sorry Phillip from elementary school!
There have been times teachers made my class stay awhile after the bell because the teacher takes their time for lessons. Due to this, we'd be late for our next classes. The teachers didn't care and we'd get punished regardless of our lack of control in the situation
If the bell doesn't dismiss us, then it shouldn't determine when we're early either.
The only time I ever had detention was because my terrible father intentionally kept me out of school for a few hours and didn't bother to try to get me excused. I missed an entire class and half of geometry. Geometry teacher gave me detention, even though it could not have been any less of my fault.
lmao i usually walked to school but i knew i would be either 30mins early if my dad drove me or 15 mins late if my mom did.
I remember my teacher calling me out every day for being late. I would tell my mom multiple times about getting me to school on time because of the teacher doing this. It was a 5min drive to my school. But despite my pleas I was always late. The few times I was on time the teacher would make a big deal out of it. Each scenerio, meant embarrassment. Being 9 trying to rationalize with adults was such a frustrating thing. Didn't matter how prepared I was, it was going to be a lose/lose situation.
well damn how this become a country club thread ?
Dont you have public transport or school buses for kids in america?
7 year old is gonna take public transport by themselves?
I'm honestly a bit shocked when I see little kids taking septa by themselves. Like what kind of shit ass parents do you have they can't take you on the bus? I had to fight to be allowed to take the bus alone at 13.
I get that parents may work and all that, but that's why parents need to make friends with other parents and will watch out for your kid.
I used to take the school bus starting at age 6.
If it was only 4 miles wouldnt it have been easier to just to go on a bike?
take the bus because then it's literally the school's fault if you're late.
Not everyone had a bus.
Could take the bus, right?
If there is a bus.
This was super frustrating when I got my first job, had the morning shift and had to have my folks take me but they were (are) incapable of leaving on time. Amazed I had that job as long as I did.
I could be 2 minutes late for one day in the entire year and my mom would bring it up in every family gathering
No lol, they said it “take responsibility”.
I’ve seen these seven year olds hustling their parents out the door 20 mins early. And the parents get the kids to school early too. Gotta get rid of those shitheads somehow
One time i was deadass 10 seconds late, they made me run up to the gate and because it turned 8 as i was running they shut the gates in front of me and i got a 30 min detention. This was year 9 or 10
Fucking stupid kids.
Yeah one time my mom kicked me out of the car on the way to school and I had to bus there. Of course I was late, but it was still my fault somehow.
Fuck I remember this. In middle school, they hadn’t fully built the new campus near my neighborhood so the middle school I ended up going to was about a 15-20 min drive/45 min bike/1+ hr walk. Needless to say, I required a ride to school. For the entirety of 8th grade I would be late bc my dad decided that if school started at 8 it would be appropriate for him to start getting ready (ie wake up and shower) at 7:50 am. This led to a year of detentions because my 12-13 year old ass was supposed to somehow be able to drive/parent my dad into being responsible about time.
Really? You are just learning to tell time in 1st or 2nd grade. You don't even understand the concept of on time. What teacher would say this then go back to the curriculum of explaining what time is and how to read it? People just post wtf.
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A teacher at kinder garten did this to me every fucking day, I was 3 or 4 years, for fuck sake woman.
We still had to walk to school ..
I hate ass teachers, even if they aren't dumb.
That's like the idiots who have told me that I chose to grow up poor. Uh, I was 7. I didn't fucking choose anything.
What a nose.
Don't you love it when teachers teach kids to take responsibility for something they had zero control over.
They don't mean that, they're just the kind of people who power trip
I'm sorry you had bad parents. Hope you learned from it and don't do the same thing to your kids.
I had to walk my little sister who peed her pants and i had to take her back home to wash and change.
Ooooh Lord. All through high school. And we weren't allowed to drive in and there weren't any busses. Why? Because Dad wanted to read emails before he got to work.
It feels good to grow up and realize you was right the whole time, some adults are just idiots or dick heads.
Hey! Youre fucking right. I walked around like a nervous wreck because of stuff like this.
I like “ft. Ty Dolla Sign” I’m assuming because he’s so bad he can never have a single, only a feature.
Bro my teachers used to get mad that I couldn’t come early/leave late to study sometimes.
“I cant, my parents both have work before I go to school and don’t come home till way after I’m home.”
“Well can’t they drop you off even earlier?”
Bitch, my parents both work in the city 2 hours away. They ain’t gonna do it!
Great example why Public schools are sooo great and teachers should get paid more /s